06-26-2019, 03:10 PM
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With that, he'd still have to drop the price significantly. He has 125k miles more than the one you mentioned, AND it's listed for $1.3k more.
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Asking price and selling price are almost never the same. He would have to go down in price. The seller here in Colorado wanted 7k was offered 5200 intially but eventually settled at that price after some friendly haggling.
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06-26-2019, 03:35 PM
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Price. $7k for one with over 300k miles is crazy (even if that's your starting price). Also, what's up with the red rear axle?
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06-26-2019, 03:54 PM
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Let me give you some perspective. I own (2) 3rd Gens. The first one I bought over 6 years ago. It had 111k and I paid $6300. The second I bought was at the beginning of 2018. It had 130k with a rear locker and I paid $6500.
Do you see where I'm going with this? You are asking crazy money for your rig. Somebody might think it's a good deal, but as you have found out after posting the mileage, that person might be hard to find. Like others have mentioned, when people see that kind of mileage, they are thinking major engine work or an engine replacement is in their near future. Some might not think that's a big deal, but most would. You're first challenged with finding a good replacement engine and then you either have to spend the time to do the swap yourself or pay through the nose to have somebody do it for you.
I think you're a product of seeing people on Craigslist asking way too much for their rigs. You're most likely going to have to come to the realization that you're asking way too much and will have to come down considerably for someone to purchase it from you. My two cents.
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06-26-2019, 04:12 PM
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That's a $3800 truck here in NY with that mileage. With all of the love you've put into it you should just keep it until it dies unless you want to give it away.
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06-26-2019, 04:18 PM
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I understand that, but buyer won't care. That just looks weird. People don't read descriptions until they flip through pictures. Having the pics not match up makes it look like you made a mistake or are trying to scam or something. Hell, I thought you made a mistake.
For that same reason, I'd keep only pictures with 1 set of tires/wheels. I didn't know that you were selling both until that afterthought mention at the bottom of your post. I thought it was a mistake.
OR take some pictures with a sign depicting the difference.
"Included in the purchase price is one set of on-road, shown here, and one set of off-road, shown here".
Mentioning them as an afterthought at the end of your post doesn't help you any.
Unfortunately, you probably can't really expect any money back for the mods you did. We all know that 4Runners last a long time, but for most, a stereo upgrade on a 325k car is just lipstick on a pig. That almost falls under basic maintenance at that age (which you can't charge for)
I'd downplay (or remove entirely) the 110v adapter, and take out the mention of the rear window switch. People are hesitant (for good reason) of older cars and trucks that have had electrical hackwork done to them. No one wants to buy an old car and then have to correct all the PO's mistakes. (not saying you made any mistakes, but that's the mindset. For all they know, they'd be spending $7k on one giant electrical gremlin)
Don't mention the original cat. Everyone know that cats are expensive, and at 325k, it really is a ticking time bomb.
Just my opinion, but also don't mention the fluids. I know you're saying that 'you take care of it', but that just looks like a red flag to many. When people say they change the fluids in order to sell, it implies that they didn't change them regularly before. Means that the person didn't take care of the car. No one is going to turn down a car purchase just because they might have to do an oil change soon after.
If the timing belt has been done recently, DO mention that. That's $600+ that the buyer could put off for a while.
DO mention if you have a basic maintenance log.
DO mention if you used 4wd at least once a month; these transfer cases don't like long periods of un-use, and it can cause them to freeze up.
Overall, I'd still say drop the price to $6k and go from there.
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Spot on. To say "I hacked into the window switch" brings up visions of electrical tape stuck all over the wiring harness.
I think it is OK to mention that "all fluids have been regularly changed based on the maintenance schedule.
Include better pictures of the interior. Spend a weekend with some leatherique to spiff up the seats. Remove that bent up, filthy trunk liner.
The front bumper looks a different color. Did you have a boo-boo?
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06-26-2019, 04:26 PM
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I will be happy to buy it. Unfortunately I'm out of the country right now but I have a cashier's check for $10k. You can cash it and send me the difference. I'll have a shipping company come and pick up the car.
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06-26-2019, 05:01 PM
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Funny, I saw the ad this morning, before seeing your post. My first thought was "nice truck, obviously someone who cares about it". My second thought was "way too much money for the mileage".
I'm guessing it's that simple for others too. You can't drop the mileage, but you can drop the price. Drop it to $4-5K, and you'll get interest. I know, it's not happy news, but you can't be in love with a car/truck you're selling; it's just business.
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06-26-2019, 05:03 PM
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A data point...
https://www.toyota-4runner.org/for-sale-vehicles/273966-2000-toyota-4runner-sr5-central-texas-$4-750-a.html
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06-26-2019, 05:11 PM
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The market for these trucks (4x4/locker) are more interested in overland related mods in my opinion. It's a nice truck but I hardly listen to the stereo on the trail, and if I do, the volume is WAY down. I just think speaker and tv are missing the market who go camping to get away from that stuff.
As far as price it's hard to say. There's a company in Oregon that sells 3rd gens with 250k on the clock but they are lifted with 33's usually, bumpers, roof racks, ets.. and they list them between 11 to 15 thousand dollars depending on how clean it is. And they're obviously selling them or else they wouldn't still be listing them that high.
If you're not in a hurry hold out. Only thing I didn't like about the ad was the inside could be cleaned a little better. Maybe shampoo/steam clean the carpet. I buy and sell a lot of cars/trucks/motorcycles on craigslist and can spot a scammer ad in two seconds. Your's is nothing like that so I wouldn't change a thing. I also liked the picture of your Lexus... GLWS
**edit: these aren't even modded actually.. just clean but still 200k miles.
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06-26-2019, 05:15 PM
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My 01 with 315,000 miles just sold for $6,200. It was in mint condition, and needed nothing.
I agree with another poster who said you are putting WAY too much information in your ad. Make bullet points. Brevity is king -- now more than ever.
Edit - also, NOBODY cares about DVD screens in a car. (I obviously exaggerate, but still). I wouldn't show a picture of it, and I certainly wouldn't have that in my title. When I see aftermarket TV screens in a car, it automatically turns me off. It just makes me think of ghetto, poorly maintained hooptys.
Final edit - Sorry for being pedantic, I'm just very picky about 3rd gens. Your tint makes the truck look older than it is. Also, I'd toss on some 99 coils to get rid of the rear sag, again just makes it look old.
FWIW, here's my ad that ended up selling my truck just this past weekend
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06-26-2019, 05:29 PM
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Yeah I would have jumped all over that!
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06-26-2019, 05:32 PM
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That's a $3800 truck here in NY with that mileage. With all of the love you've put into it you should just keep it until it dies unless you want to give it away.
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I would also agree with this price point down in your parts of NYS.
Up this way ( Rochester ) might not even get that much, unless the
frame was spotless. I missed a 2001 SR5 118K miles on her looked to
be stock and real clean, but must have been sitting for a while without
use sold for $4500 in the Syracuse, NY area! I ended up with a 2002 Sport
w/170K needing some love for $3800 cash....I took it directly to the mechanic
and said make it bullet proof and expect about another $2500 before I start to
tinker with it in a minor ways?
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06-26-2019, 10:45 PM
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Too much reading. You're underestimating how peabrained a lot of people are. They literally cannot handle a lot of words. And yeah remove the picture of the GX470. Might as well show your house and pics of your wife at the beach too. At least that will get the peabrain's attention.
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06-27-2019, 08:31 AM
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Not adding anything that hasn't already been said. While I wouldn't worry in the slightest about owning a 3rd gen with that many miles (and my wife's '96 is closing in on that quickly), I'd be FAR more reluctant to buy one with that many miles on it already. Sure, they last a long time, but someone else had already gotten the benefit of most of that.
It's just going to be very hard (i.e. impossible) to find someone willing to spend that much on it when it's competing against similarly priced 4Runners with 100K fewer miles under their belts.
If you've got the time, jsut treat CL as a Dutch auction. Every once in a while go in and drop your price a little, let the market tell you what the price is. Or if its worth more to you than anyone else, just keep it.
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06-27-2019, 09:32 AM
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The market for these trucks (4x4/locker) are more interested in overland related mods in my opinion. It's a nice truck but I hardly listen to the stereo on the trail, and if I do, the volume is WAY down. I just think speaker and tv are missing the market who go camping to get away from that stuff.
As far as price it's hard to say. There's a company in Oregon that sells 3rd gens with 250k on the clock but they are lifted with 33's usually, bumpers, roof racks, ets.. and they list them between 11 to 15 thousand dollars depending on how clean it is. And they're obviously selling them or else they wouldn't still be listing them that high.
If you're not in a hurry hold out. Only thing I didn't like about the ad was the inside could be cleaned a little better. Maybe shampoo/steam clean the carpet. I buy and sell a lot of cars/trucks/motorcycles on craigslist and can spot a scammer ad in two seconds. Your's is nothing like that so I wouldn't change a thing. I also liked the picture of your Lexus... GLWS
**edit: these aren't even modded actually.. just clean but still 200k miles.
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That dealer's adds are hilarious. When I was shopping they were popping up all over the place. They didn't seem to be moving quickly, and I sure hope people are doing their research before buying them. They are throwing what I assume to be the cheapest lifts they can on them, judging by the cheap no-name tires they are installing. I was actually getting annoyed at them for poaching all of the clean trucks and throwing crap parts on them and jacking up the price. It's a business model, but IMHO they are making the trucks worse.
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