Home Menu

Site Navigation


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 06-28-2019, 09:20 PM #1
Luke325i Luke325i is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Posts: 56
Luke325i is on a distinguished road
Luke325i Luke325i is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Posts: 56
Luke325i is on a distinguished road
Having issues with rubbing after I messed up and used tacoma rims

Well guys i need some help here, Made a mistake with some +30offset TRD wheels and now im having some issues with rubbing.

I got the rims below off a buddy and put LT265/70R17 MAXXIS BIG HORN Tires on them.
Here are the wheels:


Because of the offset being +30 instead of +15 It moved the tires too close to my truck and they were touching the control arm.

SO I went and threw some 1.25" spidertrax spacers on there and it looks awesome now, but they come out TOO far now and when im off road and i articulate, the wheels hit the fenders now because they are pushed way past the fender.

What should i do?
-Buy some generic 15mm spacers and probably install longer lugs?

-Cut the fenders and add flares? (does this work on a 3rd gen runner?)

-Add bump stops?
-Get different rims that are +15 offset like stock?

Any help much appreciated folks






Luke325i is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-28-2019, 10:11 PM #2
FunBobby's Avatar
FunBobby FunBobby is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Texas
Posts: 152
FunBobby is on a distinguished road
FunBobby FunBobby is offline
Member
FunBobby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Texas
Posts: 152
FunBobby is on a distinguished road
What lift?
FunBobby is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-28-2019, 10:13 PM #3
Luke325i Luke325i is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Posts: 56
Luke325i is on a distinguished road
Luke325i Luke325i is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Posts: 56
Luke325i is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by FunBobby View Post
What lift?
As far as i know its a shitty spacer lift. Thats what i was told when i bought it, I really dont know a ton about lifts.
Luke325i is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-28-2019, 10:24 PM #4
FunBobby's Avatar
FunBobby FunBobby is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Texas
Posts: 152
FunBobby is on a distinguished road
FunBobby FunBobby is offline
Member
FunBobby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Texas
Posts: 152
FunBobby is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Luke325i View Post
As far as i know its a shitty spacer lift. Thats what i was told when i bought it, I really dont know a ton about lifts.
I'd throw on some 15mm spacers or buy an actual lift.
FunBobby is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-28-2019, 10:41 PM #5
Luke325i Luke325i is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Posts: 56
Luke325i is on a distinguished road
Luke325i Luke325i is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Posts: 56
Luke325i is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by FunBobby View Post
I'd throw on some 15mm spacers or buy an actual lift.
been looking for 15mm spacers, just generic ones with holes right, no built in studs? would i need to install longer studs then?
Luke325i is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-28-2019, 10:53 PM #6
FunBobby's Avatar
FunBobby FunBobby is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Texas
Posts: 152
FunBobby is on a distinguished road
FunBobby FunBobby is offline
Member
FunBobby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Texas
Posts: 152
FunBobby is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Luke325i View Post
been looking for 15mm spacers, just generic ones with holes right, no built in studs? would i need to install longer studs then?
The lug bolts HAVE to be flush with the inside of the brake discs. if they are shorter, there's too much stress on a short bolt and it might shear off. if they are too long, they might interfere with brake parts behind the brake disc.
So, yes I'd look for 15mm longer than OE wheel studs to be safe.
FunBobby is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-28-2019, 11:44 PM #7
Luke325i Luke325i is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Posts: 56
Luke325i is on a distinguished road
Luke325i Luke325i is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Posts: 56
Luke325i is on a distinguished road
trying to find spacers, having a tough time
Luke325i is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-29-2019, 07:53 AM #8
DreadPirateJon's Avatar
DreadPirateJon DreadPirateJon is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Michigan
Posts: 165
DreadPirateJon is on a distinguished road
DreadPirateJon DreadPirateJon is offline
Member
DreadPirateJon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Michigan
Posts: 165
DreadPirateJon is on a distinguished road
Wheeler off-road has 1/4 inch spacers, I just picked up a set for the same reason this week but havent put them on. Then if you want longer studs I've heard the stock rear studs are a 1/4 inch longer than the fronts. But I think you probably would still have decent thread engagement without putting longer studs on.

Sent from my moto g(6) using Tapatalk
__________________
97 5spd with elocker
Build Thread https://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-g...st-bucket.html

2 inch Lift (Bilstein 5100 F&R, 99 Talls F, OME R), 33 Inch Tires
Rebuilt Engine, Doug Thorley Headers, Gibson Catback
DreadPirateJon is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-29-2019, 01:34 PM #9
Luke325i Luke325i is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Posts: 56
Luke325i is on a distinguished road
Luke325i Luke325i is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Posts: 56
Luke325i is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by DreadPirateJon View Post
Wheeler off-road has 1/4 inch spacers, I just picked up a set for the same reason this week but havent put them on. Then if you want longer studs I've heard the stock rear studs are a 1/4 inch longer than the fronts. But I think you probably would still have decent thread engagement without putting longer studs on.

Sent from my moto g(6) using Tapatalk
Wicked, thanks man.

You runnin the same trd wheels? wonder if 1/4 are big enough. They are only 20 bucks so im gonna try em.
Luke325i is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-29-2019, 10:16 PM #10
DreadPirateJon's Avatar
DreadPirateJon DreadPirateJon is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Michigan
Posts: 165
DreadPirateJon is on a distinguished road
DreadPirateJon DreadPirateJon is offline
Member
DreadPirateJon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Michigan
Posts: 165
DreadPirateJon is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Luke325i View Post
Wicked, thanks man.

You runnin the same trd wheels? wonder if 1/4 are big enough. They are only 20 bucks so im gonna try em.
Not the same wheels, but the tires i have rub my upper A arm just a smidge.

They do lessen the amount of hub-centric enagement to the wheel, so I dont know if I would run them while doing any serious off-roading.
__________________
97 5spd with elocker
Build Thread https://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-g...st-bucket.html

2 inch Lift (Bilstein 5100 F&R, 99 Talls F, OME R), 33 Inch Tires
Rebuilt Engine, Doug Thorley Headers, Gibson Catback
DreadPirateJon is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-30-2019, 02:31 AM #11
alexnumberone alexnumberone is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: So Cal
Posts: 24
alexnumberone is on a distinguished road
alexnumberone alexnumberone is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: So Cal
Posts: 24
alexnumberone is on a distinguished road
In my opinion, I would keep the hubcentric spacers you have on now and just invest in a real suspension lift.

1.25" spacers converted to MM gives you roughly 31mm. So your TRD wheels' offset changes from +30 to ~+0. This should make your wheels flush with the fender. However, you are also running 17 inch wheels so it's also smidge taller than the 16 inch wheels that I'm running.

The problem with the 1/4 inch spacers is that you still probably will not clear the control arm. 1/4 inch is roughly 6mm. Changing your +30mm to +24mm... still not the +15mm that you wanted. On top of that, your once hub-centric wheels will now become lug-centric. At the same time, this will not give you enough thread engagement when bolting/torquing your wheels back on. Fine for daily driving but once you hit a rough trail, theres a good chance you can shear your lugs right off the hub. You can get extended studs to remedy this but it still puts a lot of stress on the lugs.

I am not running spacers but I am running aftermarket wheels and was not happy the the thread engagement of my lugnuts and upgraded to these extended studs for peace of mind. Unusual Activity Detected - Free Shipping on Orders Over $99 at Summit Racing

I don't think these will work if you are planning to run spacers like the Spidertrax because they will protrude past the spacer itself and hit the backpad of the wheel.

Last edited by alexnumberone; 06-30-2019 at 02:34 AM.
alexnumberone is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 07-01-2019, 02:36 PM #12
Fishwerks's Avatar
Fishwerks Fishwerks is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Southwest
Posts: 1,075
Real Name: Chris
Fishwerks will become famous soon enough Fishwerks will become famous soon enough
Fishwerks Fishwerks is offline
Senior Member
Fishwerks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Southwest
Posts: 1,075
Real Name: Chris
Fishwerks will become famous soon enough Fishwerks will become famous soon enough
Quote:
Originally Posted by Luke325i View Post
Well guys i need some help here, Made a mistake with some +30offset TRD wheels and now im having some issues with rubbing.


What should i do?
-Buy some generic 15mm spacers and probably install longer lugs?

-Cut the fenders and add flares? (does this work on a 3rd gen runner?)

-Add bump stops?
-Get different rims that are +15 offset like stock?

Any help much appreciated folks
You probably won't have to do much clearance work with the 265s. They rub on the pinchweld area at the back of the front wheel wells? You could cut and hammer the pinchweld flat and probably solve the issue. Or set your alignment cams for max positive caster to gain some clearance at the back of the wheel well.

I wouldn't add bumpstops to the front end. Different wheels are an option as well but won't guarantee clearance.

I would be surprised if you needed to cut the fender itself, outside of the pinchweld area.

A couple people suggested different lifts for the front end - that will not help you clear tires unless it's a body lift.
__________________
Fishwerks' Photo/Build Thread 2000 SR5 l White on White l 35s l Supercharged
--
2010 Trail Edition l Salsa Red Pearl l Stock
--
Instagram
Fishwerks is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 07-01-2019, 03:04 PM #13
Reno - 3rd gen's Avatar
Reno - 3rd gen Reno - 3rd gen is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Reno, NV
Posts: 28
Real Name: Jordan
Reno - 3rd gen is on a distinguished road
Reno - 3rd gen Reno - 3rd gen is offline
Junior Member
Reno - 3rd gen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Reno, NV
Posts: 28
Real Name: Jordan
Reno - 3rd gen is on a distinguished road
If you just have the spacer lift in front, they probably used the stock coils which would be sagged down a good deal over the years. I had the same crappy spacers up front when I bought my 4runner used and I upgraded to the Toytech coil overs and got probably another 1/2" of real lift up front, plus your ride quality will improve immensely. I'd upgrading those coil overs, and cut/hammer down the pinchwelds and that should fix the rubbing. New spacers sound like it might be worth while too based on the comments above.
Reno - 3rd gen is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Reply

Tags
add , offset , rims , tires , wheels


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
285/70/17 rubbing issues? Swanny69 4th Gen T4Rs 7 12-23-2014 10:38 PM
255/85/16 rubbing issues??? Andrew Costa 3rd gen T4Rs 7 04-26-2013 08:43 PM
More 265/75/16 rubbing issues! 3rdGenJeff 3rd gen T4Rs 8 01-30-2012 12:17 PM
Nitto Rubbing Issues T4RBoarder 4th Gen T4Rs 10 12-06-2010 10:27 PM
33's rubbing issues flair runner 4th Gen T4Rs 3 04-02-2010 11:12 AM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:48 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
***This site is an unofficial Toyota site, and is not officially endorsed, supported, authorized by or affiliated with Toyota. All company, product, or service names references in this web site are used for identification purposes only and may be trademarks of their respective owners. The Toyota name, marks, designs and logos, as well as Toyota model names, are registered trademarks of Toyota Motor Corporation***Ad Management plugin by RedTyger
 
Copyright © 2020