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Old 03-12-2020, 10:56 AM #31
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I'm on the factory-for-now team. I'm all good with where i landed and leaving off the lower valence.
Hey, thanks for chiming in, winter kinda tamped down my efforts, but I recently got the front end work done, and Spring is popping, road salt will be gone soon, so I'm getting back to this..

I found a weld yourself version from Coastal Offroad that I really like, but at the same time, seeing yours, I really don't mind its look, either?

Mine would be chrome, but still.

So I could just buy a cheapo front bumper and mount it, without the valance? I knew it was possible, but have lost track of the details.

It's been so long since I dismantled it, I can't recall if there's anything "visual" that I'd need to address.

Wouldn't mind just getting it running cheaply at this point, then deal with a better bumper when I have more funds readily available.
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Not certain on details for fatlip bumpers but early bumpers are just that easy.

Mine was crunched when i got the 4R so i just ordered that upper bumper(came in black cheaper than chrome which i what i wanted) and straightened out the mounts a little.
There are probably liners and whatnot that im missing but it works just fine as is and has tons of clearance.

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Appreciate it.

Mine's not a fat lip (isn't that like '99+?) it's a '96 like yours.

I saw the blacks are a little cheaper, but with a chrome rear, yeah, matching matters, for what, $30 difference?

Not sure yet, but I like the look of yours for sure.
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Okay, zombie thread time, but with progress!

Was going to do a weld together bumper, but Covid hit, and I own a bicycle shop. To say I've been busy, is a massive understatement.

Not time to screw around with a DIY project.

Found a lower priced option within ARB's lineup, and now have a shiny black bumper just waiting to get mounted.

This bad boy.

ARB 3423020 Front Deluxe Bull Bar Winch Bumper Toyota Tacoma 1995-2004

Did a bit of bartering with a buddy who has a decent garage, and more time than I do.

He just brought it back and begged off.

Apparently, the front ends of the frame rails need to be removed (as in, cut off, not just unbolting the small front sections), in order for the bolt holes (currently holding the tie down hooks) to line up with the bumper "mounts".

Since the truck has air bags, he was concerned about affecting performance, since the sensor is in that region.

So, question, since ARB while a wonderful product, seems to have little tech support, is, is this just the norm, and I should disable air bags, or is my buddy over thinking, or, is there some solution I've not yet run across.

Wasn't sure if off road bumpers just kinda came with the mindset of, "we don't need no stinkin' air bags" or what....

Thanks guys!
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Okay, zombie thread time, but with progress!

So, question, since ARB while a wonderful product, seems to have little tech support, is, is this just the norm, and I should disable air bags, or is my buddy over thinking, or, is there some solution I've not yet run across.

Wasn't sure if off road bumpers just kinda came with the mindset of, "we don't need no stinkin' air bags" or what....

Thanks guys!
No need to disable the airbags.
You should have a section of metal tubing installed to brace the frame where the bolts go through, then weld a plate on the end of the frame, where you cut it off. Then bolt on the bumper.
The welding is relatively simple, the installation of the bumper is really easy, but it helps to have an extra pair of hands to lift the bumper while you are tightening the bolts (just for the alignment).

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Good info, thank you.

Shared it with my buddy, it seemed to help in his understanding....

I'll post pics once we have success!
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Are there any rear bumpers/carriers that similarly provide a decent amount of armor?
My biggest concern in getting rear ended, and the rear hatch is by far the weakest panel. A little extra protection and confidence would be swell
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Are there any rear bumpers/carriers that similarly provide a decent amount of armor?
My biggest concern in getting rear ended, and the rear hatch is by far the weakest panel. A little extra protection and confidence would be swell
Two choices.

1. Let the hatch get crushed.

2. Get an overbuilt rear bumper. If you get rear ended hard enough you'll bend the frame and transfer all kinds of shocks that will not only damage other things, but probably your spine as well. The hatch will survive though.

Door tire carriers have lost popularity over the years due to the amount of damage that occurs in minor accidents.
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Different concerns, but similar observation?

Theres tons of front bumpers, and almost no rears.

Not that I do any serious off roading, but is it just not as common in those circles, to beef up your rear end as well as the front?

My corner caps are starting to get cancer, was debating a rear in next years play money budget, but choices are so slim!
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Two choices.

1. Let the hatch get crushed.

2. Get an overbuilt rear bumper. If you get rear ended hard enough you'll bend the frame and transfer all kinds of shocks that will not only damage other things, but probably your spine as well. The hatch will survive though.

Door tire carriers have lost popularity over the years due to the amount of damage that occurs in minor accidents.
This was more or less the conclusion I was getting to, seems like a design you just can't really get around, and it looks like most tire carriers would just pivot with impact (usually aimed right at the window)
Thanks for the advice. Might go with a roof rack instead.
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Okay, happy pandemic everyone!

So rather than start a new thread, I'll just keep this one going.

I ended up ordering a rear from SRQ Fabrications back in March. 15+ week lead time, means I'm taking delivery tomorrow.

96-02 4Runner Rear Plate Bumper - Welded

No swing out, just the basic one.

Due to various circumstances, it's coming a day or so before I leave on vacation....

Curious if I should just not bother till after I get back, or if anyone has experience with removing and installing rears.

The front, I was able to remove the old, but the install was beyond me.

Are rears simpler? I'm deleting my hitch mounting since the bumper has it integrated (only carrying bikes), but any insight that would prevent me from having a half torn apart vehicle, Saturday morning when I leave, would be greatly appreciated.

Got my lighting all sorted, just got my valve cover gasket leak repaired, this 3rd Gen is really starting to shape up into an awesome summer toy!!
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Okay, happy pandemic everyone!

So rather than start a new thread, I'll just keep this one going.

I ended up ordering a rear from SRQ Fabrications back in March. 15+ week lead time, means I'm taking delivery tomorrow.

96-02 4Runner Rear Plate Bumper - Welded

No swing out, just the basic one.

Due to various circumstances, it's coming a day or so before I leave on vacation....

Curious if I should just not bother till after I get back, or if anyone has experience with removing and installing rears.

The front, I was able to remove the old, but the install was beyond me.

Are rears simpler? I'm deleting my hitch mounting since the bumper has it integrated (only carrying bikes), but any insight that would prevent me from having a half torn apart vehicle, Saturday morning when I leave, would be greatly appreciated.

Got my lighting all sorted, just got my valve cover gasket leak repaired, this 3rd Gen is really starting to shape up into an awesome summer toy!!
Did you order it powder coated or raw steel?
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Okay, happy pandemic everyone!

So rather than start a new thread, I'll just keep this one going.

I ended up ordering a rear from SRQ Fabrications back in March. 15+ week lead time, means I'm taking delivery tomorrow.

96-02 4Runner Rear Plate Bumper - Welded

No swing out, just the basic one.

Due to various circumstances, it's coming a day or so before I leave on vacation....

Curious if I should just not bother till after I get back, or if anyone has experience with removing and installing rears.

The front, I was able to remove the old, but the install was beyond me.

Are rears simpler? I'm deleting my hitch mounting since the bumper has it integrated (only carrying bikes), but any insight that would prevent me from having a half torn apart vehicle, Saturday morning when I leave, would be greatly appreciated.

Got my lighting all sorted, just got my valve cover gasket leak repaired, this 3rd Gen is really starting to shape up into an awesome summer toy!!
Rears are typically simpler. You may have to drill an extra hole or two in the frame to accommodate how your specific one mounts. I recommend a step bit for drilling through the frame.

Did you get the Sonoral Steel rear body mounts? Lots of stories of people who didn't get them having the bumper flex into the body and cause damage while offroading. I recommend replacing those read body mounts between taking the OE bumper off and putting the new one on.

1996-2002 4Runner Rear Polyurethane Body Mounts (Pair) - $93.45 : Sonoran Steel Fabrication LLC, Toyota Truck Parts

The rear isn't as scary as the front since you aren't cutting up the frame, but I'd take your time and not rush if you're trying to leave for a trip soon. Things always take 3 times longer than you expect.

Get the bumper powder coated if it isn't already, get those body mounts, and take your time doing it. It's nothing more than a bunch of bolts, jacking up the body and then bumper, and maybe drilling a hole or two.
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Rears are typically simpler. You may have to drill an extra hole or two in the frame to accommodate how your specific one mounts. I recommend a step bit for drilling through the frame.

Did you get the Sonoral Steel rear body mounts? Lots of stories of people who didn't get them having the bumper flex into the body and cause damage while offroading. I recommend replacing those read body mounts between taking the OE bumper off and putting the new one on.

1996-2002 4Runner Rear Polyurethane Body Mounts (Pair) - $93.45 : Sonoran Steel Fabrication LLC, Toyota Truck Parts

The rear isn't as scary as the front since you aren't cutting up the frame, but I'd take your time and not rush if you're trying to leave for a trip soon. Things always take 3 times longer than you expect.

Get the bumper powder coated if it isn't already, get those body mounts, and take your time doing it. It's nothing more than a bunch of bolts, jacking up the body and then bumper, and maybe drilling a hole or two.
Thanks for the info I currently have a tire carrier in the works from CBI and was totally unaware of this. That would've been a major bummer to find out the hard way, especially considering I initially bought a bumper/tire carrier cause I put a dent in my flawless rear! Not sure if my bumper will warrant one but better safe than sorry
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