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Spoke with tech rep @ POR who told me some guys never actually open the can but puncture the top with sheetmetal screws (2 so it pours easier) with rubber washers and pour small amount as needed into small container for immediate use.
After pouring some out they just seat the screws w/rubber washers into the top so all good for next time.
I’ll give it a shot.
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That is pure genius! I wasted more quart size cans than I want to admit due to the lid completely seizing on the can after one use. This trick sounds perfect, I'll be sure to try it next time.
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09-23-2019, 03:45 PM
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Oh, and I also came across the problem with a solid crust forming on the top layer of the paint. I wonder if that can be fixed by storing the can upside down, that way the crust will form on the far side, away from the opening? Like storing ketchup or mustard jar upside down .
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09-23-2019, 07:03 PM
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I have that china freight air descaler and they work great.
Once Por-15, KB seal are exposed to the atmosphere they will not last long. I used to buy the smallest cans and just use them up at one time.
The sheet metal screw with rubber washer will work for a little while, but I wouldn't expect a 90% used can to be good in a year.. However, a few weeks, or so, I can see that working.
This is the one I have
Air Needle Scaler & Other Needle Scalers - Harbor Freight Tools
That baby is heavy. The compact one i am sure would be just as good and smaller so you can get into more places
Compact Air Needle Scaler
You should be good though as long as you don't have any rot through areas. You get that outside coated really good with the POR 15. Then clean the inside of the frame and shot it a heavy coat of fluid film. Seal all the frame holes off with even silicon. Then coat the outside of the frame good with FF. You should pretty much super slow down the rust progression..
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09-23-2019, 07:59 PM
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I have that china freight air descaler and they work great.
Once Por-15, KB seal are exposed to the atmosphere they will not last long. I used to buy the smallest cans and just use them up at one time.
The sheet metal screw with rubber washer will work for a little while, but I wouldn't expect a 90% used can to be good in a year.. However, a few weeks, or so, I can see that working.
This is the one I have
Air Needle Scaler & Other Needle Scalers - Harbor Freight Tools
That baby is heavy. The compact one i am sure would be just as good and smaller so you can get into more places
Compact Air Needle Scaler
You should be good though as long as you don't have any rot through areas. You get that outside coated really good with the POR 15. Then clean the inside of the frame and shot it a heavy coat of fluid film. Seal all the frame holes off with even silicon. Then coat the outside of the frame good with FF. You should pretty much super slow down the rust progression..
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Interesting tools, never heard of them till you posted, Thanks!
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09-23-2019, 09:50 PM
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Brillo,
Interesting tools, never heard of them till you posted, Thanks!
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Get a REALLY good set of ear pro.
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09-24-2019, 04:03 AM
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Get a REALLY good set of ear pro.
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One of the best hearing protection devices I use, I had made at an audiologist
which is molded to you inner ears. The sponge ones work fine to and a lot cheaper just not as sound deadening as these. They are not silicone material as that stuff sweats too much. I used to shoot a lot of Skeet & Trap back in the day so I get your point!
https://www.decibullz.com/earplugs-for-shooters/
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09-24-2019, 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by brillo_76
I have that china freight air descaler and they work great.
Once Por-15, KB seal are exposed to the atmosphere they will not last long. I used to buy the smallest cans and just use them up at one time.
The sheet metal screw with rubber washer will work for a little while, but I wouldn't expect a 90% used can to be good in a year.. However, a few weeks, or so, I can see that working.
This is the one I have
Air Needle Scaler & Other Needle Scalers - Harbor Freight Tools
That baby is heavy. The compact one i am sure would be just as good and smaller so you can get into more places
Compact Air Needle Scaler
You should be good though as long as you don't have any rot through areas. You get that outside coated really good with the POR 15. Then clean the inside of the frame and shot it a heavy coat of fluid film. Seal all the frame holes off with even silicon. Then coat the outside of the frame good with FF. You should pretty much super slow down the rust progression..
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I have the compact model linked above and it works very well. Just used it on the frame of my Gen-1 Tundra. Removes scale that the wire wheel just polishes.
Warning: it uses a LOT of air. You'll need a high CFM compressor to keep up -- or just manage your duty cycles.
+1 on the hearing protection. When you're under there, it's like your inside a steel drum banging on it with a hammer.
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09-24-2019, 10:08 AM
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I have the compact model linked above and it works very well. Just used it on the frame of my Gen-1 Tundra. Removes scale that the wire wheel just polishes.
+1 on the hearing protection. When you're under there, it's like your inside a steel drum banging on it with a hammer.
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Thanks for another solid recommendation on the compact needle scaler. Will definitely be visiting local HF and picking one up before applying the POR.
Got the ear protection covered but thanks for mentioning as well.
Would like to get this buttoned up in next few weeks before the snow starts flying!
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09-25-2019, 05:41 AM
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Would like to get this buttoned up in next few weeks before the snow starts flying!
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Hopefully we have more than just a few weeks! :-)
I prepped and POR-15-ed my Tundra this summer. This past weekend I doused it with a good coat of WD-40 based on the thread by
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. Annual WD-40 treatment is my plan going forward based on his experience.
For the WD-40 I bought a gallon container and a large spray can of it. To apply it I used a combination of a garden/chemical sprayer and an old spray bottle.
That covered the bulk of the application. Then used the spray can along with a 2 foot long extension tube to get in the door bottoms, rocker panels, and other hard to reach places.
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Hopefully we have more than just a few weeks! :-)
I prepped and POR-15-ed my Tundra this summer. This past weekend I doused it with a good coat of WD-40 based on the thread by
@ dogtail
. Annual WD-40 treatment is my plan going forward based on his experience.
For the WD-40 I bought a gallon container and a large spray can of it. To apply it I used a combination of a garden/chemical sprayer and an old spray bottle.
That covered the bulk of the application. Then used the spray can along with a 2 foot long extension tube to get in the door bottoms, rocker panels, and other hard to reach places.
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Sounds good, us New Englanders gotta do what we can to not rust away. You can hit around the inside of the wheel well lips too for body protection. Remember to not wash the undercarriage now (aka high pressure car wash). The coating overtime will create a seasoned film. I hit again in February for the tail end of winter, I don't have to, but I do it for piece of mind. I'm holding out to spray just before 1st snow, which is usually around December in Massholia.
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09-25-2019, 11:33 AM
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What all are you guys doing to prevent the rockers from rusting?
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For the WD-40 I bought a gallon container and a large spray can of it. To apply it I used a combination of a garden/chemical sprayer and an old spray bottle.
That covered the bulk of the application. Then used the spray can along with a 2 foot long extension tube[/URL] to get in the door bottoms, rocker panels, and other hard to reach places.
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Funny you mention the garden/chemical sprayer as I was thinking that might be my preferred method of application regardless of using WD-40 or Fluid Film.
I have a compressor and 4 post lift but i think it might be way cleaner to use a garden sprayer with less pressure.
I’ll be doing this inside my garage where I have a dedicated woodworking area as well as other vehicles and thought of a light coat or mist of WD-40/FF traveling through the air is not very appealing.
I don’t really see a downside in going the route you did as coverage should not be reduced.
Anybody disagree?
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09-25-2019, 01:23 PM
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What all are you guys doing to prevent the rockers from rusting?
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Anyone thats doing it effectively is spraying the INSIDE of their rockers thru the drain holes with some liquid of choice every year. I use WD-40.
See my post - SEASONAL RUST PROOFING using WD-40 only
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09-25-2019, 01:57 PM
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Funny you mention the garden/chemical sprayer as I was thinking that might be my preferred method of application regardless of using WD-40 or Fluid Film.
I have a compressor and 4 post lift but i think it might be way cleaner to use a garden sprayer with less pressure.
I’ll be doing this inside my garage where I have a dedicated woodworking area as well as other vehicles and thought of a light coat or mist of WD-40/FF traveling through the air is not very appealing.
I don’t really see a downside in going the route you did as coverage should not be reduced.
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I used to do it way . :] however my gun is low pressure volume. The film dosent atomize too much at all. Nothing wrong with doing it that way. I just got used to using my gun for applications. :]
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09-25-2019, 02:01 PM
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What all are you guys doing to prevent the rockers from rusting?
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I pulled the tar covers off on the inner rocker and replaced those all with rubber body plugs and spray [ my rust prevention liquid of choice] in that way. :]
Being all my rigs PO neglected the body panels and frame. I have to replace most of my outer in inner rocker metals on my rides. In that process now with Tetanus 1.
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