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Old 09-23-2019, 09:36 AM #16
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You guys are so funny. If you think the ground clearance and suspension on a 2wd isn't valuable on running the non graded backroads of America; you really don't understand the 2wd models at all. The limited slip differential allows for those backroads to be traveled easily.

Now would a 4wd be an added layer of security for getting out of a bad spot or in snow? Yes; of course but it isn't necessary the other 99.9% of the time; at least where I live. If mud and snow are common where you live then I would agree; get the 4wd. If not; there are a lot of parts that don't get used but 'may' need to be repaired and carried around all the time as extra weight.

The reliability reputation of the Toyota T4R is the same for 2wd and 4wd. Please don't be a 4wd snob without understanding just how good a 2wd T4R really is; even with its minor limitations. Not everyone lives for bog hogging and rock crawling on the weekends.
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I bought a 2 owner 4WD Diff Locked 96’ in great shape with 85k in March. $7500. Keep looking.
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Dang ,and here I thought my 01 2wd 4runner was a bute. Now I find out she's only good for runs to the mall... Devastated...
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Then there's this one in the classified section.Nice truck but really??


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You guys are so funny. If you think the ground clearance and suspension on a 2wd isn't valuable on running the non graded backroads of America; you really don't understand the 2wd models at all. The limited slip differential allows for those backroads to be traveled easily.

Now would a 4wd be an added layer of security for getting out of a bad spot or in snow? Yes; of course but it isn't necessary the other 99.9% of the time; at least where I live. If mud and snow are common where you live then I would agree; get the 4wd. If not; there are a lot of parts that don't get used but 'may' need to be repaired and carried around all the time as extra weight.

The reliability reputation of the Toyota T4R is the same for 2wd and 4wd. Please don't be a 4wd snob without understanding just how good a 2wd T4R really is; even with its minor limitations. Not everyone lives for bog hogging and rock crawling on the weekends.
He isn't knocking 2wd's and wasn't being a snob about it.
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He isn't knocking 2wd's and wasn't being a snob about it.
If you don't see the diss in this; I don't know what to tell you. If I only wanted a road rig then I would have gotten a Rav4, CR-V, Pilot, or Highlander. If that were the case then he would be right but since it isn't...
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I just think that if you are after a wagon-body vehicle that's 2WD, you're better off with a staion wagon, or a minivan. More cargo and passenger volume, more nimble, better MPG, and probably a better ride.
BTW; on the title my T4R is called a "4DSW" so you see; all T4R's are considered 4 door station wagon's according to the state of Arizona. Yours, mine, everyone's. I guess they haven't updated their software to include SUV's yet...

I took my 01 up into the mountains with a 400 lb passenger on a very rough dirt road about as far as I'd want to whether I had 4wd or not. It did just fine. No 4wd needed. The suspension and ground clearance was critical though. 2wd doesn't mean paved roads only.

In other news; the Ultragauge with the cool Spiker Engineering mount did really good as I pulled that steep hill. I watched my trans temp go up to 205 before I stopped and let it idle for a minute which caused the temp to drop right back down to 190. It normally runs between 160 and 175. I use the external Hayden trans cooler and bypassed the radiator to eliminate the possibility of trashing the transmission from the pink milkshake scourge. However, if I did have 4wd and liked to pull even steeper and rougher terrain, I would put it inline with the stock radiator setup. The T4R's are really great rigs!

Since we are on the subject of 2wd vs 4wd. How much of the time is your rig in 4wd vs 2wd?
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If you don't see the diss in this; I don't know what to tell you. If I only wanted a road rig then I would have gotten a Rav4, CR-V, Pilot, or Highlander. If that were the case then he would be right but since it isn't...


BTW; on the title my T4R is called a "4DSW" so you see; all T4R's are considered 4 door station wagon's according to the state of Arizona. Yours, mine, everyone's. I guess they haven't updated their software to include SUV's yet...

I took my 01 up into the mountains with a 400 lb passenger on a very rough dirt road about as far as I'd want to whether I had 4wd or not. It did just fine. No 4wd needed. The suspension and ground clearance was critical though. 2wd doesn't mean paved roads only.

In other news; the Ultragauge with the cool Spiker Engineering mount did really good as I pulled that steep hill. I watched my trans temp go up to 205 before I stopped and let it idle for a minute which caused the temp to drop right back down to 190. It normally runs between 160 and 175. I use the external Hayden trans cooler and bypassed the radiator to eliminate the possibility of trashing the transmission from the pink milkshake scourge. However, if I did have 4wd and liked to pull even steeper and rougher terrain, I would put it inline with the stock radiator setup. The T4R's are really great rigs!

Since we are on the subject of 2wd vs 4wd. How much of the time is your rig in 4wd vs 2wd?
I just read his comment again and he was being as polite and politically correct toward the 2wd owners as you can get. All I see is someone overly sensitive about owning a 2wd.
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I just read his comment again and he was being as polite and politically correct toward the 2wd owners as you can get. All I see is someone overly sensitive about owning a 2wd.
Then we simply disagree. No need to get all snippy about it.

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I just bought my first 4runner, and after all the hunting I have done id say its worth 6k MAX.
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In Georgia, that would be priced about right. A semi trashed one with 300k Mike's goes for 5k, a prestine one with high miles goes for 8k. If she's flawless and sub 100k I'd offer 10k
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In Georgia, that would be priced about right. A semi trashed one with 300k Mike's goes for 5k, a prestine one with high miles goes for 8k. If she's flawless and sub 100k I'd offer 10k
For a 2wd? That seems pretty outrageous.
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2001 3rd Gen 85k 2wd SR5 V6/auto very clean inside and out. The person is asking $11,900 and I think it's way overpriced. What do you think it's worth?
Right now in San Diego 4runners with 200-250k are going for 6-8k. I've seen a few under 100k asking almost 20k loll
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3rd Gen 85k miles - What's it worth?

Ive found that for any older used vehicle... my 98 is just a couple years from being eligible for antique tags here in AR... low mileage can be a wild card for determining value.

This is especially true for timeless gems such as the 3rd gen (no bias here ;)

If it’s the only specimen of it’s type, it’s worth a lot more than it ought to be for the right buyer


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Ive found that for any older used vehicle... my 98 is just a couple years from being eligible for antique tags here in AR... low mileage can be a wild card for determining value.

This is especially true for timeless gems such as the 3rd gen (no bias here ;)

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OH 2WD? I didn't catch that... But even still, probably 8k
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You guys are so funny. If you think the ground clearance and suspension on a 2wd isn't valuable on running the non graded backroads of America; you really don't understand the 2wd models at all. The limited slip differential allows for those backroads to be traveled easily.

Now would a 4wd be an added layer of security for getting out of a bad spot or in snow? Yes; of course but it isn't necessary the other 99.9% of the time; at least where I live. If mud and snow are common where you live then I would agree; get the 4wd. If not; there are a lot of parts that don't get used but 'may' need to be repaired and carried around all the time as extra weight.

The reliability reputation of the Toyota T4R is the same for 2wd and 4wd. Please don't be a 4wd snob without understanding just how good a 2wd T4R really is; even with its minor limitations. Not everyone lives for bog hogging and rock crawling on the weekends.
Relax with the 2WD inferiority complex, dude. I'm not putting it down. I'm simply making a comparison based on what I think the OP is looking for, and I could be totally wrong. Maybe he wants something with high ground clearance.

HOWEVER, if you're looking for a wagon body vehicle, a station wagon or even a minivan would make more sense. These 3rd gens aren't the best when it comes to fuel economy, ride quality, or cargo/passenger volume. it is capable, but with capability come the sacrifices mentioned above.

If you enjoy your truck, that's great. Keep enjoying it.
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