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Are you referring to the panhard bar mounts? If you are, then yes you should get some drop brackets. It helps center the axle and greatly improves handling. I recommend eimkeith's panhard correction kit. PCK (Panhard Correction Kits) – eimkeith.com
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Yeah that's what I was referring to. A lot of people are running lifts higher than mine without doing a drop bracket. I specifically didn't get it because i assumed the weight of the bumper would off set it. A lot of people are iffy about it. I'll check this drop bracket out but the toytec one is a weld on, I didnt want to do a weld on.
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10-15-2019, 04:09 PM
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Yeah that's what I was referring to. A lot of people are running lifts higher than mine without doing a drop bracket. I specifically didn't get it because i assumed the weight of the bumper would off set it. A lot of people are iffy about it. I'll check this drop bracket out but the toytec one is a weld on, I didnt want to do a weld on.
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The one I linked is weld on as well. I don't think there are any bolt on drop brackets for it. You can try an adjustable panhard bar to center your axle, but if you flex a lot you're more likely to hit a rear tire on the fender instead of tucking it due to the extra panhard bar length shifting the axle further during flex.
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10-15-2019, 04:51 PM
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The one I linked is weld on as well. I don't think there are any bolt on drop brackets for it. You can try an adjustable panhard bar to center your axle, but if you flex a lot you're more likely to hit a rear tire on the fender instead of tucking it due to the extra panhard bar length shifting the axle further during flex.
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I'd rather just get a drop bracket and the one from toytec is cheaper, and looks easy to install. I'm just wondering how some people are running lifts higher than mine and theirs sits level. Maybe I'm just tripping, or my driveway is screwed up. I'll have to check it out tomorrow again, have someone drive behind me and see
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10-15-2019, 05:19 PM
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I'd rather just get a drop bracket and the one from toytec is cheaper, and looks easy to install. I'm just wondering how some people are running lifts higher than mine and theirs sits level. Maybe I'm just tripping, or my driveway is screwed up. I'll have to check it out tomorrow again, have someone drive behind me and see
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Panhard bar doesn't affect your lift height. The panhard bar locates your rear axle left or right when looking at it from behind. Now that you are lifted above stock height in the rear your rear axle is shifted to 1 side at your new ride height.
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10-15-2019, 06:55 PM
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Panhard bar doesn't affect your lift height. The panhard bar locates your rear axle left or right when looking at it from behind. Now that you are lifted above stock height in the rear your rear axle is shifted to 1 side at your new ride height.
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Well I was already at above stock height. I had bilestines in front and rear I decided to re do everything with better coils to level the truck out. But that makes sense. The bracket will solve that issue?
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10-16-2019, 08:33 AM
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10-16-2019, 11:03 AM
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Cool. I'll report back when its installed
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10-22-2019, 08:00 PM
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Just installed. Bar is straight and seems to sit level now...I think lol
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10-22-2019, 09:46 PM
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Couple of notes...
When doing the rear suspension, you should be supporting the frame on jack stands to allow the rear suspension to droop on its own. Also, as part of the lift, you should loosen all of the pivot bolts for the rear links (10 locations, each end of the 5 links). That will allow the axle to droop all on its own (support with jack on the diff). Re-tighten the links after the truck is back down on its own weight. It will help the bushings last longer. Similar deal on the front - loosen the pivot bolt on the upper arm and the cam adjusters on the lower arm so that the suspension can naturally droop, then re-tighten back at ride height.
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And don’t want to be bearer of bad news but u don’t want to be running the inner bump stop on the rear: u have the toytec 3” one I see but it’s recommended u don’t use it and Steve at Sonoran steel will tell you the lc coils r happier sitting directly on the cab. Like the work u did tho! Bilsteins in the 4th perch is ballsy, i think bilstein even adds a thing in the box saying don’t go above 3rd perch. An alternative would’ve been what I did using the tundra billies on the second to last with toytec eibach springs effortlessly achieved me 3” and some change in front lift height after my JBA upper CAs freed up the front and allowed it to rise to wher it is now level with rear
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10-22-2019, 09:49 PM
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I'd rather just get a drop bracket and the one from toytec is cheaper, and looks easy to install. I'm just wondering how some people are running lifts higher than mine and theirs sits level. Maybe I'm just tripping, or my driveway is screwed up. I'll have to check it out tomorrow again, have someone drive behind me and see
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Most or all will not sit level so u can get the OME TRIM packer for rear driver spring or what I did ant toytec makes a part specific for it, get the best 1/4 spacer made out of aluminum that sits on the “top hat” of your coil and spring set up before u stick it in the strut tower and bolt it back up. Brings it level and part cost 35$
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10-23-2019, 01:33 AM
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Awesome man. In my opinion that setup is just about as good as it gets without really breaking the bank. Make sure you've got room in the rear brake line, those superflex coils and LC shocks will flex like crazy if you want them to.
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10-23-2019, 11:21 AM
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And don’t want to be bearer of bad news but u don’t want to be running the inner bump stop on the rear: u have the toytec 3” one I see but it’s recommended u don’t use it and Steve at Sonoran steel will tell you the lc coils r happier sitting directly on the cab. Like the work u did tho! Bilsteins in the 4th perch is ballsy, i think bilstein even adds a thing in the box saying don’t go above 3rd perch. An alternative would’ve been what I did using the tundra billies on the second to last with toytec eibach springs effortlessly achieved me 3” and some change in front lift height after my JBA upper CAs freed up the front and allowed it to rise to wher it is now level with rear
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Why no bump stops? They're easy to take off so I'm not worried. And what happens if I stay on the 4th perch? The front is already tundra belistines and coils. My two other buddies have the same set up in the front and they're on the second perch. Am I going to cause damage in the front on the 4th perch?
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Awesome man. In my opinion that setup is just about as good as it gets without really breaking the bank. Make sure you've got room in the rear brake line, those superflex coils and LC shocks will flex like crazy if you want them to.
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Yep already extender the brake line just to be sure
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And don’t want to be bearer of bad news but u don’t want to be running the inner bump stop on the rear: u have the toytec 3” one I see but it’s recommended u don’t use it and Steve at Sonoran steel will tell you the lc coils r happier sitting directly on the cab. Like the work u did tho! Bilsteins in the 4th perch is ballsy, i think bilstein even adds a thing in the box saying don’t go above 3rd perch. An alternative would’ve been what I did using the tundra billies on the second to last with toytec eibach springs effortlessly achieved me 3” and some change in front lift height after my JBA upper CAs freed up the front and allowed it to rise to wher it is now level with rear
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He has superflex coils in the rear not land cruiser coils.
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Why no bump stops? They're easy to take off so I'm not worried. And what happens if I stay on the 4th perch? The front is already tundra belistines and coils. My two other buddies have the same set up in the front and they're on the second perch. Am I going to cause damage in the front on the 4th perch?
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As long as you're not over around 3" of static lift, able to get a good alignment, and you're OK with the ride quality there's not a single problem running on the 4th perch with the stock tundra coils, that's what they're built to do. The typical setup would be either 2nd or 3rd perch to achieve it, but you're not the first I've seen that had to go to the 4th to get it as high as they wanted. All the adjustment does is preload the springs.
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