09-29-2019, 10:44 PM
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Fuel filter at 40,000km and 5 years
I had put a napa fuel filter on my 4runner 5 years back. It has always bugged me using non-OEM on an important part. That's just the way I am, so today I put an OEM Toyota on.
Just to show anyone interested, this is what a WIX filter looks like inside. And this is how dirty a 40,000 km (25,000 Mile) filter can be.
I was not having any issues with the old one, just changed it out because I wanted to. My original to the truck one came off at 130,000 km and looked much the same as this one if I remember correctly. These may be a 'lifetime' part but I'm happy to change it out periodically.
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09-30-2019, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Kanoe
I had put a napa fuel filter on my 4runner 5 years back. It has always bugged me using non-OEM on an important part. That's just the way I am, so today I put an OEM Toyota on.
Just to show anyone interested, this is what a WIX filter looks like inside. And this is how dirty a 40,000 km (25,000 Mile) filter can be.
I was not having any issues with the old one, just changed it out because I wanted to. My original to the truck one came off at 130,000 km and looked much the same as this one if I remember correctly. These may be a 'lifetime' part but I'm happy to change it out periodically.
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Thanks for sharing. I am sure it will remind some folks to change theirs. :]
I try to do mine every 100K miles as filters are never lifetime.
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09-30-2019, 02:48 PM
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This amazes me. Modern cars no longer have fuel filters, however it is obvious that there are still contaminants in gasoline that should be filtered out. How do we not see clogged injectors all over the place in modern cars?
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10-01-2019, 02:55 PM
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This amazes me. Modern cars no longer have fuel filters, however it is obvious that there are still contaminants in gasoline that should be filtered out. How do we not see clogged injectors all over the place in modern cars?
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They have fuel filters as part of the fuel pump assembly, generally. So, you have to drop the tank and replace the whole assembly to do the filter.
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10-01-2019, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by phattyduck
They have fuel filters as part of the fuel pump assembly, generally. So, you have to drop the tank and replace the whole assembly to do the filter.
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This ^^^ newer cars are now more reliable and last longer but the maintenance items like this is hellaciously more expensive because of their design
Manufactures will try and bend you over on doing stuff like this now.
I live by a few fill up rules....although sometimes you wont know, if you missed it, don't fill up your tank if the tanker is there. never run your tank high and dry (on a regular basis).
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10-01-2019, 03:25 PM
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I do not believe "newer cars are more reliable" statement. Comparing toyotas 90 hilux, 92 corolla and 97 4runner all between 220 and 300K miles still has factory fuel sending unit and works perfectly but my 00 Landcruiser with 230K miles has a faulty fuel gauge sending unit that works 9/10 times. My cousin's LC 200 series with just 60K miles have an error code with the AC.
Check the price of a 3rd gen 4x4 runner and 4th gen 4x4 runner with same miles. Depreciation is very low for the 3rd gen.
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10-01-2019, 03:52 PM
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I don't know about you guys. I still say the 1980's Toyota's were more reliable then today's. Granted, this may have to do with a lot less systems in them. No EFI until 1985 in the trucks, live axles front ends until 1986. No 6 or 8 cylinder engines though. So they were more sluggish.
So I guess they were just simpler machines. I never had leaf springs break in the trucks until the 1st gen Tocuma. Toyota did keep their engines and transmissions very reliable. It seems when they went to locally country build or region built when issues started becoming more prevalent.
Thankfully, the 4 Runners are still Japan only built. My Favorite is the 3rd gen 4 runners. They just seem to be extremely popular even though they are 18+ years old. I wonder how many were even made and how many are still on the roads today.
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10-01-2019, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by brillo_76
I don't know about you guys. I still say the 1980's Toyota's were more reliable then today's. Granted, this may have to do with a lot less systems in them. No EFI until 1985 in the trucks, live axles front ends until 1986. No 6 or 8 cylinder engines though. So they were more sluggish.
So I guess they were just simpler machines. I never had leaf springs break in the trucks until the 1st gen Tocuma. Toyota did keep their engines and transmissions very reliable. It seems when they went to locally country build or region built when issues started becoming more prevalent.
Thankfully, the 4 Runners are still Japan only built. My Favorite is the 3rd gen 4 runners. They just seem to be extremely popular even though they are 18+ years old. I wonder how many were even made and how many are still on the roads today.
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Ask and you shall receive:
US SALES Only
1996: 99,597
1997: 128,496
1998: 118,484
1999: 124,221
2000: 111,797
2001: 90,250
2002: 77,026
Seeing how the auto industry has grown over the past 18 years but 4Runners sales have not, 3rd Gens were, and still are, the most popular.
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10-01-2019, 11:48 PM
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Thanks Jarod mostly slighty over 100k per year average [us only]. Man could Japan pump them out. Wonder how many left on the road? The south would be a pile except for those wrecked. In the North snow belt, the rust got a pile of them as well as wrecked. I only see a 3rd gen once in a while anymore on the road...Only a handful in my area. [Excluding my fleet]
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There's a TON of them out here in Northern California. They are great off-road and great in the snow so a lot of people keep them on hand for driving over the mountain passes to go play in the snow. I've seen a decent amount of them in Oregon too in the more rural areas.
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10-02-2019, 01:29 PM
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I'll have to cut my filter open when I replace it. Mine is the original to the truck, 18 years 235k miles. I'm sure it's disgusting.
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