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Old 11-01-2019, 01:39 PM #31
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This is 30 posts long and I skimmed. If you spray starting fluid in the PCV hole in the intake will it start?


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People run Walbros all the time for aftermarket performance, so the idea that you need an OEM pump is a completely rubbish nonsensical "solution".
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Non oem fuel pumps can have many defects: Low pressure, leaking, already dead, etc.,

I saw SouthMainAuto (Mr. Eric. O) showing a camry with a new (aftermarket) fuel pump installed by another shop didn't start or idle and dies. He replaced the aftermarket pump with used toyota pump and the car started running again.

There was another video of him showing the an ordinary fuel hose between the pump and mounting plate causing leaks. Regular fuel hoses cannot be submerged in gasoline. Must you the correct hose.
Walbro is a known good brand. Considering his spark plugs are soaked in fuel I would assume the fuel pump is working just fine.
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Not yet since life been busy. I was able to try few things. I pulled the new plug, let them dry out. Made sure motor was not flooded. Verified NO fuel through vacuum line on FPR. Verified fuel to the rail. Verified all plugs have spark. MAF seems fine, cleaned and sure it's not damaged but I've ran this car without a MAF before. Every car I've owned can run with no maf as it puts you in open loop.

Car wont start with starter fluid. Just turns, never a blip or chug like its trying to start. Just turns over and over.

Still need to verify fuel pressure but it get lots of fuel.

Need to check cam gear teeth.

Check ecu.

The one thing I did not do was drain and swap fuel. I mixed new with the old like I've done many times years on other motors. Fuel does not look tarnished but maybe its absorbed too much water to fire. But I was thinking if it was bad fuel.it would chug and be rough but not fire at all.
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I have to ask how strong the spark is?

Anything else that needed attention before parking it?

Get that fuel pressure read.
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I've got a similar issue on my 92 3.0 seems like no fuel to the spark plugs. When I pull them there bone dry. I've replaced the fuel pump the fuel filter open circut relay AFM and efi relay. I'm lost at this point
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I've got a similar issue on my 92 3.0 seems like no fuel to the spark plugs. When I pull them there bone dry. I've replaced the fuel pump the fuel filter open circut relay AFM and efi relay. I'm lost at this point
Do you injectors have power? Fuel pressure in spec at the rail with the FSM? I am not familiar with the 2nd gens. May have better luck with 2nd gen users. As this is the 3rd gen section.

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if you pulled the plugs and they were wet where they fuel wet or coolant wet did you smell them. If they were fuel wet than I would check for spark like stated above. To check spark pull a plug wire put a screw driver in the plug wire hold the handle and put the metal part 1/4 from some metal like the alternator bracket and have some one turn the engine over you should get a steady spark every 3 to 5 seconds if you do not if it were me i would look at your timing belt.

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Cranks, has fuel, air, spark, no start.

If you keep trying and the plugs keep getting fuel soaked the will foul and you will need new plugs even if there is spark.

The spark should be blue at 1/4” if it’s orange replace to coil or check your battery post voltage while you are trying to start it.

And as mentioned before check timing.


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Just on the sidenote: It should start without airfilter but make sure the MAF is connected. Otherwise it won't start.
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If you have spark, but no kick with starting fluid, I strongly suggest you recheck plug wire routing, no matter how many times you think you have checked them. Use this diagram:

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was this issue ever resolved my 97 is doing the exact same things, like exactly, have been checking and test for 3 days straight and am at a loss and about to go crazy. buy a toyota they said, itll run forever they said!
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