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Old 11-18-2019, 02:07 PM #16
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Im debating tackling the job myself or I can get a shop to do it for $450. Do you guys think this is something a novice can do on their own? I dont want to do it, and mess it up and waste all the money I just spent.
Would definitely recommend doing your own suspension work. There's good youtube videos on it. Usually when you start modifying a vehicle, or maintaining an older one, there's going to be a lot of unplanned tweaking, adjusting, fine tuning, replacing other parts you didn't know needed replacing, etc. If you have to take it into a shop every time something is needed it, the total cost will add up & will seem like it's not worth keeping anymore. It's a labor of love but the benefit is you get to learn the platform.

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As far as welding, that may be something worth finding a qualified person to do if you don't have any experience with it.
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Obviously I was exaggerating on the floating.
But you answered my question. Get the Kings lol.
Yeah if you look up Opt Offroad on YouTube hes got kings on his 3rd gen with a BTF fab front long travel kit amongst a bunch of other sick upgrades but you can really see how much those kings can flex watching his videos. In one he get prolly 10 ft of air at some sand dunes and lands without a problem lol
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808Waterman,

What perch are you running the 6112's on, what OME coils are you using and how much lift did you get?

I've been searching like crazy to get info on this lift or something similar with possibly the 5160 in the back.
I'm on #9 drivers and #8 passenger. for Coils I have OME 890's. Seems to be pretty level to me.

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Figured I would share where im at so far. Got new UCA, 2.5 Icon extended travel coilovers, Icon 2.0 rear shocks, toytec superflex coils, and extended the panhard bar.
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I've built a lot of trucks and ran Fox 2.5's with DSC's and resi's, Icon 2.5's with resi's, OME stuff, Bilstein 5100's, and now have Bilstein 6112's on my 3rd gen. I wrote a small review in my build thread you might find interesting.

Kings/Icons/Fox/ADS etc will perform better than the Bilsteins. They will also squeak more and need more maintenance which comes at a physical cost (repalcement parts) and time (yours or the shop you're paying to rebuild/repair them). Is it worth it? Depends on your uses and needs.

Check post #66 in my build thread HERE.
When you wrote you initial review of the Tundra 6112/650# in your build thread, I'm assuming that was with a stock front end?

Looking back would you still recommend 650# on Tundra 6112 with a stock front?

How would you compare your previous TRD Tundra coil/5100s to the Tundra 6112/650#? Was there anything you liked better about the TRD Tundra coil/5100 over the Tundra 6112/650#?

When you had the higher end Kings/Fox/Icons/ ADS, how long/miles did they last before you had to be serviced/rebuilt? Where did the squeaking come from?
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When you wrote you initial review of the Tundra 6112/650# in your build thread, I'm assuming that was with a stock front end?

Looking back would you still recommend 650# on Tundra 6112 with a stock front?

How would you compare your previous TRD Tundra coil/5100s to the Tundra 6112/650#? Was there anything you liked better about the TRD Tundra coil/5100 over the Tundra 6112/650#?

When you had the higher end Kings/Fox/Icons/ ADS, how long/miles did they last before you had to be serviced/rebuilt? Where did the squeaking come from?
All good questions.

Unfortunately my time between the TRD Tundra/5100 setup and the Tundra 6112/650 setup has been long. I feel like if I answered this in detail, it wouldn't be very valid. I do remember liking the TRD/5100 setup and it definitely had some motivation for me to try the 6612/650 setup. The only specific thing I do remember was that I thought the 5100 rear Tundra shocks were valved too soft for the 4Runner. They were smooth but definitely under-valved, most noticeable on compression.

Yah the truck had a stock front end initially on the Tundra 6112/650 setup. I was on notch 3/2. Since the bumper went on, I have bumped them up to 3/4 to retain the height. The 4Runner rides very very nice right now with the front Coast Offroad bumper and no winch. I thought it was also very tolerable with the 650 coils with the stock front end - I would not even consider swapping the springs to a 600lb coil. I've actually been thinking about what I will do when I throw my winch on... I don't want the front to drop anymore as I am happy with the height, and I don't want to bump up anymore on the spring perches. So I will probably go with a 0.25" top spacer or maybe even try a 700lb or longer 650lb coil. I'd actually be happy to drop the shocks back down to the 2/3 or even 1/2 positions if I could keep the height I'm at now.

My old Fox's started to squeak from the lower heim at about 20,000kms (12K miles) and the Icons needed the heims replaced at 24K miles (started squeaking a little before that). I'd say the Fox's still felt pretty good at that 12K mileage (but I sold the truck) and the Icons @ 24K still felt good but I could tell they were near a rebuild.

Hope that helps!
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Figured I would share where im at so far. Got new UCA, 2.5 Icon extended travel coilovers, Icon 2.0 rear shocks, toytec superflex coils, and extended the panhard bar.
Looks great! Throw an @eimkeith PCK in there and you will be forever grateful.
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Hope that helps!
Very helpful thank you. Do you have center hub to fender measurements pre or post bumper?
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