Originally Posted by Wedgy

Update..... Suddenly it works... like nothing ever happened. I was about to take the park/neutral safety switch out and mess with it, I put the relay back in and it works. I had the relay out so I could jump it by connecting the 3 to the 5 pin to start it. My relay worked in my 1997 4runner and the 1997 relay would not work in my 1998 so it isn't the relay. I was getting slightly less voltage to the #1 pin when the key was turned, not enough to trigger the relay. Down for 9 days... I'll mess with it when I get a chance but for now I'm blaming global warming

Originally Posted by Wedgy

Yes, it was raining when this issue started and now it is sunny for about a week, long enough to dry out.

Originally Posted by phattyduck

An easy test for the neutral safety switch is to try to start it in neutral instead of Park (also try wiggling the shifter around). Sometimes the contacts can get dirty or the shifter can get out of alignment with the transmission mounted switch. Removing and cleaning is possible if the safety switch is the problem.

-Charlie

Originally Posted by Wedgy

I was walking the dog Friday afternoon about 1.5 miles from the truck getting to the top of hill on the loop I jog, enjoy the view for a second, get a text from my sister that it's pouring rain at her house a mile away. I see it's heading my way and in no time it's hailing, better than rain as long as it's small, then it turns to rain and we're pretty wet when we get to the rig, no big deal....but then I turn the key and nothing, no click from the starter or battery. Interstate battery 9 months old, new starter 2 weeks ago, all the electrical(lights, signals, windows, stereo, etc. work), never had any type of battery drain issue. No luck trying in neutral, moving, jiggling the shifter around(it's an auto), all cables, ground, etc. tight, did the Big 3 awhile back. So we jog home another 1.3 miles uphill, in the rain, in the dark. Normally not a big deal, I have a couple thousand dollars of mountaineering/hunting clothing for any type of weather but I'm wearing shorts and a $10 hoody from Walmart and we just got snow for the first time in a couple years here in So Cal(it's rare so we get excited about it, and people drive like crap).
Saturday I swap starter relays with my other truck and still nothing, all the blade type fuses check OK with a meter, not sure how to check the bolted in ones like the alternator fuse but they look OK. The relay from this truck works in the other truck so it's not that. I end up running a jumper wire in the starter relay spot from the 3 to the 5 wire pins(red line in photo) and it starts right up so I drove it home the went back on my bike to get my Subaru I left there. Searched the forum for a while and only came up with the park/neutral safety switch. Not sure how to test this and I'm not super handy with electrical stuff. I'm not exactly sure how to test the # 1 & 2 don't think that's the issue. I think the problem is between the key and the relay. There is no aftermarket alarm system, it has the RS3000 but I have never had a remote and never have used it. I did see a couple drops of water on the drivers floor mat below the inside fuse panel, I cleaned the sunroof drains in summer and all was good. Where should I be looking for the short ?
On a side note when driving the Subaru back at night the passengers headlight was pointing at the ground so I figured somebody backed in to me again... nope, I have a fishbowl going on. I've had this car 6 years and not a drop of moisture in the headlights then suddenly it's full. WTH ?

Originally Posted by tweetyboy9

What if your battery slowly dies while driving after the battery light comes on. Took to autozone but they said battery, spark plugs, and alternator are good

Originally Posted by tweetyboy9

What if your battery slowly dies while driving after the battery light comes on. Took to autozone but they said battery, spark plugs, and alternator are good

Originally Posted by Wedgy

It's not a battery issue, I can start it anytime if I bypass the starter relay. The relay tests fine.

Originally Posted by tweetyboy9

What if your battery slowly dies while driving after the battery light comes on. Took to autozone but they said battery, spark plugs, and alternator are good

Originally Posted by wapual1337

my friend has a 01 toyota 4runner who ended up getting it stuck in a field because some jack@!! decided to rip / cut out her ignition harness connector.. im assuming he touched some wrong wired. together but am confused as to why the relays have no power and the wieres leading to the ignition now have no power as well now