12-15-2019, 11:04 PM
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I let it sit it three weeks at a time pretty often. Matter of fact now it spends most of its time in the garage. Generally it starts up normal. A minor tick is to be expected on any engine that sits for so long. The oil has nowhere to go but down after sitting so long.
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12-15-2019, 11:53 PM
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I was not able to drive my 4runner for about 3 weeks 2 months ago. It sat in the garage for about 3 weeks straight. When I did get back to starting it, it sounded horrible for a few secs!! I usually drive my truck everyday so this was different to me.
My goodness..
What is the longest you've ever left your truck sitting before starting and driving it? How did it sound once you did get around to starting it?
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Mine was sitting for about 2 years. Took a few minutes to burn the old gas out of the lines before it got fresh gas and ran fine after.
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12-16-2019, 12:05 AM
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A little over 400 days when I was deployed, was fine when I got home.
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12-16-2019, 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Dieselchessy
Valve clatter at startup tells me the oils not doing its job, either due to engine wear or other.
If fresh oil doesn’t do it but used oil does;
Then switch to synthetic.
Try 10w-30.
Buy a better filter with a better seal.
Change oil at 3k vs 5k
Try some Lucas or other oil conditioner.
Run Marvels or sea foam in the crankcase the last 500 before oil change to clean out sludge.
If none of that works your engine is likely quite tired.
For bumbling starts after sitting, maybe it’s fuel pressure. Turn the key on for 10 seconds before cranking to let the fuel pump build pressure.
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Won't work on our trucks. FP only engages when cranking or running. Suspect is fuel pump that won't hold pressure between starts or FPR.
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12-16-2019, 12:32 AM
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Won't work on our trucks. FP only engages when cranking or running. Suspect is fuel pump that won't hold pressure between starts or FPR.
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Your correct, too many vehicles on my mind. Many vehicles pump up the pressure when the key is turned on.
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12-16-2019, 12:55 AM
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Some questions to your comment....
Is there a better oil filter than the OEM one from the dealership?
If I do move to synthetic, are you still changing it at 5k? If not what interval?
So you can run Lucas all the time in oil?
Can you mix Seafoam with the Lucas for that last 500 or so miles?
I did let the fuel system build pressure before I started it so I also think it might be the valves clattering...
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I change oil at 3k to 3.5k, run mobile 1 synthetic, and run 10w30.
If you can get 5k on an oil change with no noticeable change in noise at startup that’s probably fine. I honestly don’t know, never tested it.
My thought is that 5w oil and 5k changes are great for 200k throw away cars. But I run my rigs out north of 300k so I want the added lubrication.
Never ran a Toyota filter, don’t know who makes them. Your looking for a filter that has a good reputation for not allowing drain back. I tend toward Bosch filters.
Yes you can run Lucas full time, sub 1 quart oil for 1 of Lucas, or 1/2 quart oil for 1/2 quart Lucas.
Yes you can dump a bottle of Marvels or Seafoam in about 500 before you change oil assuming your not too full. A touch over the high dot is ok, but you don’t want to be a quart over, I don’t think.
For the fellow who uses Seafoam for storage stabilizer in non-ethanol gas.
Seafoam is ~20% alcohol.
If your goal is no alcohol you might want to try Stabil rather than Seafoam.
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12-16-2019, 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Dieselchessy
I change oil at 3k to 3.5k, run mobile 1 synthetic, and run 10w30.
If you can get 5k on an oil change with no noticeable change in noise at startup that’s probably fine. I honestly don’t know, never tested it.
My thought is that 5w oil and 5k changes are great for 200k throw away cars. But I run my rigs out north of 300k so I want the added lubrication.
Never ran a Toyota filter, don’t know who makes them. Your looking for a filter that has a good reputation for not allowing drain back. I tend toward Bosch filters.
Yes you can run Lucas full time, sub 1 quart oil for 1 of Lucas, or 1/2 quart oil for 1/2 quart Lucas.
Yes you can dump a bottle of Marvels or Seafoam in about 500 before you change oil assuming your not too full. A touch over the high dot is ok, but you don’t want to be a quart over, I don’t think.
For the fellow who uses Seafoam for storage stabilizer in non-ethanol gas.
Seafoam is ~20% alcohol.
If your goal is no alcohol you might want to try Stabil rather than Seafoam.
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If you run full synthetic and change every 3000 miles, you are wasting money. Now a days 7500-10,000 is the recommended interval minimum for full syn. depending on the oil and filter, you can go 15-25k. Check out Amsoil and their filters.
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12-16-2019, 06:46 AM
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Longest I’ve let my truck sit is a little over three weeks. I noticed a very slight slowness in turning over, which I suspect is the battery. I did check the voltage on the battery and the alternator output, both appear to be normal. The truck came with a battery that was about a year old, and it’s a no-name brand. I plan to upgrade it to an Optima battery.
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12-16-2019, 09:46 AM
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My donor engine sat for about a year before I swapped it into my truck. Fired up first try with no issues.
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12-17-2019, 02:03 AM
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~9 months while I was deployed....
I disconnected the battery and left it on the base parking lot - come back, hooked up the battery, fired right up... then used it to jump 3 other guys' cars.
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12-17-2019, 07:44 AM
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So far I am holding the record.... . Lol. It's the little things that excite me..;)
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12-17-2019, 09:00 AM
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After I put gas in it. It fired right up. The environment it was in was decent in my garage
If they sit for long periods of of time like this. It's best to spin them every once in a while. Even if you dont start them. Spin the engine like 10 to 20 seconds to get that oil pumping every few months. Keeps everything covered in oil and keeps your seals from drying out.
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12-20-2019, 10:59 PM
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After I put gas in it. It fired right up. The environment it was in was decent in my garage
If they sit for long periods of of time like this. It's best to spin them every once in a while. Even if you dont start them. Spin the engine like 10 to 20 seconds to get that oil pumping every few months. Keeps everything covered in oil and keeps your seals from drying out.
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3 weeks is about all this truck will sit.. I have to drive to way to often!
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12-21-2019, 06:42 PM
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3 weeks is about all this truck will sit.. I have to drive to way to often!
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Completely understandable. Most people dont have 5 3rd gens. When I take them off the road for frame repairs. Sometimes that takes quite a while to get that completely done and all back together. I not in a hurry though I rather just do it all once and be done with that project. Then do the frame rebuild in sections. I have done it both ways though.
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