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ClimbsTrees 07-25-2020 03:02 PM

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Left to right: 210v, 891 and 890.

3bears 07-25-2020 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ClimbsTrees (Post 3523225)
Hey! Long time listener, first time caller. I installed the Dobinsons 210v coils this morning and I have pics! I have a 2002 limited and have had OME 890 and 891 coils before today. My suspension in front is the tundra TRD/Bilstein 5100 setup on the bottom perch. Rear has been Bilstein 5100's with 891 coils and 890's before that, both with the yellow 10mm trim pieces.

Front hub to fender is right at 22" both sides and the right rear sat about 22.25" and the left rear was 22.5" with the 891's.

After installing the Dobinsons without the 10mm trim pieces, the new measurements are 24 right rear and 24.5 left rear with half a tank of gas.


so your tundra/ billies on bottom perch are handling the weight of the ARB ok and no tire hitting ? I ask because I will plan to do similar with the arb and a winch in front and have been reading different reports on what perch to set it too.
thanks

ClimbsTrees 07-26-2020 09:21 AM

I do get some rubbing at full turn when wheeling, but daily driving is fine. I'm going to tub the front end enough for future 35's as soon as I have the time, but hammering the pinch weld and trimming some plastic has worked very well for my setup. Just for reference I have a CBI hybrid with full hoops and a Smitybilt X2O 10,000 lbs. with the synthetic rope. Tires are 285/75/16 Maxxis Bighorns. Wheels are Procomp 7069. The CBI is less than 100 lbs. and even with the winch the front isn't much lower than before. I don't know how much the ARB weighs, but if you haven't already seen them there are a couple videos worth checking out. Also, I recommend getting UCA's when lifting. I have Camburgs, however SPC's have an adjustable ball joint.
As far as which perch for the 5100's, it's better to leave it on the bottom and get a coil that suits your needs. The Tundra coils are progressive and adding preload will change how they behave.

Timmy The Toolman has an awesome YouTube channel!
CBI
CBI Front Hybrid Bumper Install - YouTube
ARB
ARB Bull Bar Bumper Install on a Toyota 4Runner (ARB PN: 3423020) - YouTube

Devbot 07-30-2020 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by UnderFire (Post 3418952)
I have a feeling but I haven't tried it, that the OME FJ Cruiser rear springs 895 medium duty may be the right coil for people looking to carry a little extra weight (2-300lb) and stay around 3" of lift at ride height.

You ever do any digging or experimenting with this? Can I ask what led you to believe this? Sounds very appealing
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Originally Posted by ClimbsTrees (Post 3523225)
Hey! Long time listener, first time caller. I installed the Dobinsons 210v coils this morning and I have pics! I have a 2002 limited and have had OME 890 and 891 coils before today. My suspension in front is the tundra TRD/Bilstein 5100 setup on the bottom perch. Rear has been Bilstein 5100's with 891 coils and 890's before that, both with the yellow 10mm trim pieces.

Front hub to fender is right at 22" both sides and the right rear sat about 22.25" and the left rear was 22.5" with the 891's.

After installing the Dobinsons without the 10mm trim pieces, the new measurements are 24 right rear and 24.5 left rear with half a tank of gas.

How are they holding up? Do you like them more than the 891s/how do they compare so far? Very interested, hearing lots of sagging complaints with 891s

Jaysen4runner 07-31-2020 01:29 AM

891 suck saggy really bad. I'm currently on 7.5 LC it's ok but still no fully happy. Thinking about 210v. Maybe I will purchase a set soon

Devbot 07-31-2020 08:46 AM

How strong as the 210v? I assume not very if they're taller than 891s AND provide less lift
How is it there are so little options for the rear :shrug:

Bad Luck 07-31-2020 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Devbot (Post 3525942)
How strong as the 210v? I assume not very if they're taller than 891s AND provide less lift
How is it there are so little options for the rear :shrug:

Read what you quoted from ClimbsTrees in your post #154. They are taller than 891's AND provide more lift.

Devbot 07-31-2020 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bad Luck (Post 3525966)
Read what you quoted from ClimbsTrees in your post #154. They are taller than 891's AND provide more lift.

Oh shit I'm retarded lol

biggestmexi 07-31-2020 02:53 PM

How can I go about getting just a 1 inch lift with Bilstein 24-249966? I plan on getting the matching fronts and leave the stock springs on, but I cannot find info for the rears for such a marginal lift.

DS motorsport has all 4 shocks now for 375

itskohler 07-31-2020 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by biggestmexi (Post 3526106)
How can I go about getting just a 1 inch lift with Bilstein 24-249966? I plan on getting the matching fronts and leave the stock springs on, but I cannot find info for the rears for such a marginal lift.

DS motorsport has all 4 shocks now for 375

Shocks won't give you lift, you'll need springs. I have 5th gen springs on mine, gave me 1.5in of lift all around.

Devbot 07-31-2020 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by biggestmexi (Post 3526106)
How can I go about getting just a 1 inch lift with Bilstein 24-249966? I plan on getting the matching fronts and leave the stock springs on, but I cannot find info for the rears for such a marginal lift.

DS motorsport has all 4 shocks now for 375

'99 talls are 1in higher than (normal) OEM

ClimbsTrees 08-01-2020 08:30 AM

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Hey, so it's been a week with the Dobinsons and so far I like them a lot! Now, I am waiting on some Bilstein 33-187174 shocks from 4Wheelparts and bump stops from Sonaoran Steel, so I haven't been off road yet. The shocks have been sitting at a dock in Dallas for over a week and I wish I could just drive over there and pick them up. I should get a call any day now. They feel a bit like the 891 coils if not slightly stiffer and seem to handle my bumper, spare, hi-lift, jerry can and recovery gear (maybe around 330 lbs.) even better! I run without the stabilizer bar and with the extra 2 inches of lift there is slightly more body roll when turning. With the 891's and the 10mm trim pieces it was at 22.5". With the 210v's and no 10mm trim pieces it's at 24.5". both with the internal cone bump stops. The blue looks great, too!

Devbot 08-02-2020 04:21 PM

What were your coils/shocks up front again? Looks pretty good, might just shoot for these if they don't offer something closer to 3in, it's a little more rake than I like but this is becoming a headache
Edit: nevermind, just saw it's TRD/Tundra 5100. Keep us posted :)

Bad Luck 08-03-2020 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ClimbsTrees (Post 3526363)
Hey, so it's been a week with the Dobinsons and so far I like them a lot! Now, I am waiting on some Bilstein 33-187174 shocks from 4Wheelparts and bump stops from Sonaoran Steel, so I haven't been off road yet. The shocks have been sitting at a dock in Dallas for over a week and I wish I could just drive over there and pick them up. I should get a call any day now. They feel a bit like the 891 coils if not slightly stiffer and seem to handle my bumper, spare, hi-lift, jerry can and recovery gear (maybe around 330 lbs.) even better! I run without the stabilizer bar and with the extra 2 inches of lift there is slightly more body roll when turning. With the 891's and the 10mm trim pieces it was at 22.5". With the 210v's and no 10mm trim pieces it's at 24.5". both with the internal cone bump stops. The blue looks great, too!

Thanks for the review and update. I'm really liking the stance! Any reason you went with FJ Cruiser/4th Gen 4Runner shocks over Tokico Blacks for an FJ80? I haven't run either, but from my research it seems Tokico Blacks for an FJ80 dampen additional weight better.

Devbot 08-04-2020 10:32 PM

^^ seconding this, would also like to know how they compare. I originally wanted the Bilsteins but they're back ordered everywhere and might go with Tokicos instead
God this is becoming a royal pain. The more I reread this thread I'm thinking 210v's or Superflexes might be the ticket but I wont be rocking a tire carrier for another couple months and the rake might be pretty bad with TRD coils/5100s. Maybe? idk at this point it might pay to say f*ck it and just make a commitment


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