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Old 06-14-2021, 10:23 PM #286
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I'm running a Toytec Superflex rear and having some sag issues when fully loaded.

Running a heavy rear bumper, full spare swingout, and when fully loaded for camping with gear, tent, etc, I get some sag.

Is the OME 861 the answer? Need something that can hold more weight but retain the benefits of the Toytec tall superflex.
Do you have the new Superflex coils? I have the 024RCB model that was discontinued, and I'm amazed at how well they hold the weight. I've had them on for two years now, and I crossed the scales at 5620lbs, full trail weight, driver, and full tank of gas.

This is how it sits at that weight on the trip. Tires are 235/85-16s. Front is probably a little low, it's just the stock 600lbs Icon springs at stock 3" lift (unloaded), but I have a bumper, winch, full skids, and dual batteries up front. Unfortunately I didn't take any measurements.

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Im looking for some LC7wraps if anyone is getting rid of them. Running bilstein 5100 rears and 880/billy front on a 99. My 906s are great unloaded but now that i have a sleeping platform/drawers/500lb slides/ rack/ ect its sitting low (22in hub to fender before trip gear) obviously the 210 is out of the question with the 880 upfront (22)
Make a post on a IH8Mud! The Cruiser Heads on there are super active. I thought I needed some 8 wraps so I was gonna buy some from a dude on there for $40. This is a good route if you're looking for something affordable. I have 7.5 wraps and a 4xInnovations swingout with spare 33", the 7.5 wraps are just about perfect for me, though a bit stiff with the LC Tokicos when unloaded.
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I know this is 5 months old since the last post... but I'm pretty disappointed that the Superflex got discontinued. It worked for me with all the weight and it still had flex.

I guess I have to look elsewhere.

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I believe the $190 2" Dobinsons coils listed on Amazon are actually the C59-222V, not the C59-210v. The 210v are a stock height coil.

And Dobinsons isn't a new company, just 'new-ish' to the US market. I've been running the Dobinsons C59-137v 2in coils on my 3rd gen for 2+ years and they have been really solid for retaining comfort unloaded and then holding 600lbs of cargo and passengers with minimal sag. If I hadn't switched over to LC rear shocks for the 'long travel' i would stick with the 137v. The 137v will fall out with extended shocks (even with 1in spacers).

As for the potential benefits of the 210v, they are all speculative right now unless someone who has run them can chime in. But they are side specific to help with the driver's side lean, and 'should' offer a similiar lift as the LC coils unloaded. With the initial coil rate of 187# they should ride decently well without weight, but then when loaded you'll end up in the 217# section (similar to the OME861). So theoretically they are a blend of the LC coils for comfort and unloaded height, but can take weight like the OME861 without the ridiculous ride height.

I have a set of 210v on back order so I'll be a guinea pig for the 210v. Unfortunately they are on back order until May, so you'll have to wait.
Did you ever get your 210vís installed? How do you like em?
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I did get the 210v's installed, and I've have had them on my truck since 2020. I still really like the dual spring rate and the ability to carry a heavy load.

With that said, I would NEVER recommend these for a truck running stock weights. You'll end up pushing 5in of lift, which i've found to have a very pronounced effect on the handling dynamics of the truck. Right now I have ~3in of lift on the front, and I still have a solid rake to the truck. With a 4xinnovations plate bumper, full swingout (i.e. cook tray, dual 5gal jerry cans, hi-lift, and 33in mud tire), 10in sub, amp, recovery gear, 5 gallons of water, camping gear for four people, 55qt pelican cooler, I'm still .5-1in higher in the rear.

Now if you are running this heavy I highly recommend the 210v's, even over the OME 861s. The 210v's are progressive so you do end up getting a little better ride out of them when it is 'unloaded' (still with the plate bumper, spare, and sub). In the rocks they flex out well, zero complaints about that. If you're looking to get the most out of a permanently heavy setup I strongly recommend ditching the Bilstein 5100s and going with the Tokico Land Cruiser shocks. They have enough dampening for a 6000lb+ Land Cruiser so the won't struggle with a heavy 4runner. Not only that, they have about .5in shorter compressed length, and .5in longer extended length...also cheaper, I think I paid $43 per shock.

Just so you have all the information, my setup is: 210v's, Tokico LC shocks, Durobumps 5.25in bump stops (awesome upgrade), Eimkeith PCK, extended brake lines, relocated sway bar, poly upper control arm bushings, and new 98'+ OEM lower control arm bushings with Toytec skids. Overall, the rear of my truck is fairly dialed and works great without creaking, binding, or complaining. I've had a chance to demo 2.5in shocks for the rear, and while they are 'better', they don't add enough control to justify the price, the Tokico are good enough for 99% of what I do. Now the front is another story...after my re-gear and front locker install later this year I will be going to Radflo 2.5in coilovers. The 2.5in coilovers are a dramatic improvement over bilstein 5100s or Dobinson twin-tubes.
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Not sure this is right place to ask but thought I can start here.
Just bought a 2002 2wd sr5 with 290k miles. Runs great except thinking suspension is original!
I bought this for my son so budget for sure!
Searching internet for this is mind boggling. I like the idea of getting Bilstein 5100s and moog springs. I see for back I get 81043 for my 16 inch wheels but what about the front? What size coils and other parts do I need?
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