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Old 01-17-2020, 10:31 AM #31
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What rear spring would be best for about 2-2.5" lift but a soft ride? It won't be off road very much so looking for best ride quality possible. Probably going to run either a 265-75-16 or 285-70-16.
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What rear spring would be best for about 2-2.5" lift but a soft ride? It won't be off road very much so looking for best ride quality possible. Probably going to run either a 265-75-16 or 285-70-16.
I'm in the same boat, so far as I've read up on OME 906's would do it but a little harsh, OME 890s would be good unless you need full droop then they may fall out.

I'm also debating the fronts.

Bought the rig with mish mash of parts. 5100's up front and OME 895s with OME shocks in the rear. Rides like garbage.
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I started to make a spread sheet with all the rear spring options and then decided I was going 890's and I'd change if I don't like it.

890 seems about the best choice for 2.5-3" lift when not carrying lots of weight. Amongst the other 2.5-3" options they seem less likely to fall out.

model/spring rate/wire diameter/free height D/P

OME 2890 190 .591 17.13/16.73
OME 2891 210 0.63 16.53/16.14
OME 2906 220 .669 15.35/14.96

I bought Tundra TRD coils for the front.
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I started to make a spread sheet with all the rear spring options and then decided I was going 890's and I'd change if I don't like it.

890 seems about the best choice for 2.5-3" lift when not carrying lots of weight. Amongst the other 2.5-3" options they seem less likely to fall out.

model/spring rate/wire diameter/free height D/P

OME 2890 190 .591 17.13/16.73
OME 2891 210 0.63 16.53/16.14
OME 2906 220 .669 15.35/14.96

I bought Tundra TRD coils for the front.
One thing to note with the numbers above is that these springs won't give the same amount of lift. Using these numbers (which I haven't verified, but assume to be correct), here are the spring heights with 1000 lbs of load:

rate free H H @1000lb
890 190 17.13 11.87
891 210 16.53 11.77
906 220 15.35 10.80

Note that 890 and 891 have about 1" more lift than 906.

I have about a 2" lift with the 906's in my '97 (which is exactly what I wanted), so you'll get closer to 3" lift with the 890/891.

I'm quite happy with the ride with the 906's, I don't find them too stiff at all (and I like comfort, so take that for what it's worth).
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That height at 1000# would be good data to have. Would be nice if all this type data was readily available.
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That height at 1000# would be good data to have. Would be nice if all this type data was readily available.
Agreed. It's easy to calculate the expected ride height given the free height and spring rate, but it wouldn't account for progressive springs.
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What rear spring would be best for about 2-2.5" lift but a soft ride? It won't be off road very much so looking for best ride quality possible. Probably going to run either a 265-75-16 or 285-70-16.
If your rig will not see offroad and will not have tons of weight in the rear then the best ride quality will be oem springs. So... a spacer lift will be your best bet. Daystar makes a 2.5" and a 1.5" spacer for the rear.
Amazon.com: Daystar, Toyota 4Runner 2.5" Rear Lift Kit, fits 1996 to 2002 2/4WD, all transmissions, all cabs KT09108BK, Made in America: Automotive
Amazon.com: Daystar, Toyota 4Runner 1.5" Rear Lift Kit, fits 1996 to 2002 2/4WD, all transmissions, all cabs KT09107BK, Made in America, Black: Automotive
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I started to make a spread sheet with all the rear spring options and then decided I was going 890's and I'd change if I don't like it.

890 seems about the best choice for 2.5-3" lift when not carrying lots of weight. Amongst the other 2.5-3" options they seem less likely to fall out.

model/spring rate/wire diameter/free height D/P

OME 2890 190 .591 17.13/16.73
OME 2891 210 0.63 16.53/16.14
OME 2906 220 .669 15.35/14.96

I bought Tundra TRD coils for the front.
2.5-3.0" lift sounds about right when I had my 890s. I try to use center hub to fender measurements so that it's easier to establish a baseline for lift. With 890s I was consistently at 22.5-22.75" center hub to fender with a couple hundred pounds of cargo gear. With my Toytec superflex (the ones advertised for 3.75" lift) I sit 23-23.25" with the same amount of cargo weight. They handled similarly & was happy with both. I don't think the coil falling out should be an issue if a proper length shock is used.

For my next front set up I'm considering the Tundra TRD/Tundra bilsteins or Tundra 6112.
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So with your bumper/swing out. Roughly how much lift are you getting from the super flex? Hub to fender would be awesome to know.
Here's a picture. This is with Superflex + trimmed OEM top cones. The rear bumper is a 4XI with a swing-out 34" tire and a full jerry can, so fairly heavy.

Hub-to-fender distance is 23.75". Even with the bumper setup, I imagine I'm still short of the 1000lb total load on each spring.

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