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I've been happy enough with the Bilsteins and would have gone with the Tokicos just to try them. A Toyota dealer in California has 20 some odd Tokicos and could ship in about 5 business days, but they and the Bilsteins I want are not available anywhere around DFW. I just figured I might get the Bilsteins sooner since they are at a dock in Dallas waiting to be delivered; still haven't heard from my parts store. It's whatever, no worries. The Tokicos are around 50 dollars cheaper depending on which dealership you order from. Could have put that towards a panhard correction kit or my next oil change!
Hey, Devbot, I don't think the superflex for 3rd gens are available anywhere unless you can find some used ones. What bumper and tire carrier are you getting?
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08-05-2020, 05:19 PM
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Plan on getting a CBI hybrid rear bumper+swing out, weighs around 200lbs if I remember
Assuming the billies are a tad stiffer (given they're aftermarket vs OEM) I'm leaning towards Tokico's as the 210v are stiffer than regular LC coils
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08-06-2020, 10:50 AM
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Love this thread . Ive been in a search of a perfect rear spring.
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08-06-2020, 12:48 PM
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Love this thread . Ive been in a search of a perfect rear spring.
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Whats your desired set up and lift?
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08-06-2020, 12:56 PM
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Shocks won't give you lift, you'll need springs. I have 5th gen springs on mine, gave me 1.5in of lift all around.
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'99 talls are 1in higher than (normal) OEM
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I know the shocks wont give me lift. However the front I can move the c-clip up and use the stock spring correct? Then the rears I can get the '99 talls? That seems like what I would prefer to do. What are the PN on talls? I am going to be searching too.
4823135190 - 99 talls PN
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08-06-2020, 01:07 PM
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Whats your desired set up and lift?
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I am currently running LC coils. 7 wraps. I love the ride and flex. But Its a bit too raked for me. I know weight can bring it down but im not carrying weight most of the time. I tried OME 906 and absolutely hated the ride. Ideally it would be cool to have a spring with some "dead coils" to keep the ride height a bit lower but keep the flex. My search continues.
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08-06-2020, 01:24 PM
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I am currently running LC coils. 7 wraps. I love the ride and flex. But Its a bit too raked for me. I know weight can bring it down but im not carrying weight most of the time. I tried OME 906 and absolutely hated the ride. Ideally it would be cool to have a spring with some "dead coils" to keep the ride height a bit lower but keep the flex. My search continues.
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Keep us updated on your hunt! Ive really been digging my 5th gen springs, currently with no intentions of going taller. I give it a few months before I decide I want more lift though haha.
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08-06-2020, 04:09 PM
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I am currently running LC coils. 7 wraps. I love the ride and flex. But Its a bit too raked for me. I know weight can bring it down but im not carrying weight most of the time. I tried OME 906 and absolutely hated the ride. Ideally it would be cool to have a spring with some "dead coils" to keep the ride height a bit lower but keep the flex. My search continues.
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Sounds like OME 890's would be a good fit for you. Taller than 906's but shorter than LC 7 wraps. Slightly higher spring rate than 7 wraps but less than 906's. 7 wraps are 160 lb/in, 890,s are 190 lb/in, and 906's are 220 lb/in.
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08-06-2020, 04:55 PM
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Sounds like OME 890's would be a good fit for you. Taller than 906's but shorter than LC 7 wraps. Slightly higher spring rate than 7 wraps but less than 906's. 7 wraps are 160 lb/in, 890,s are 190 lb/in, and 906's are 220 lb/in.
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I think i have to give those a try.
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08-06-2020, 08:18 PM
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According to ARB themselves 906's are also progressive, to boot
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08-07-2020, 01:38 PM
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I used some 906s because I'm not carrying much rear weight and they seem fine. Not sure what characteristics would cause someone to 'hate the ride'. though. It is a truck, right? That said, I do a lot of city driving (throwing it into corners, jockeying for lanes, running ECT full-time, and generally treating it like the 1970 FIAT spider I previously had) as well forest roads and fairly mild trails. As much as real offroaders like to remove or disconnect sway bars, I find having fresh sway bar bushings and longer end links to place the bars correctly to compensate for lift helps a lot. Not everyone drives like an idiot (me), however, so YMMV.
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I used some 906s because I'm not carrying much rear weight and they seem fine. Not sure what characteristics would cause someone to 'hate the ride'. though. It is a truck, right? That said, I do a lot of city driving (throwing it into corners, jockeying for lanes, running ECT full-time, and generally treating it like the 1970 FIAT spider I previously had) as well forest roads and fairly mild trails. As much as real offroaders like to remove or disconnect sway bars, I find having fresh sway bar bushings and longer end links to place the bars correctly to compensate for lift helps a lot. Not everyone drives like an idiot (me), however, so YMMV.
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Yeah the 906 did feel more stable but that makes sense with a higher spring rate. I just personally didn't like the ride. 160 to 220 was too much of a jump for me. But again its my opinion. I even tried revalving my rear shocks making them softer for the 906. which did help on compression a little.
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Yeah the 906 did feel more stable but that makes sense with a higher spring rate. I just personally didn't like the ride. 160 to 220 was too much of a jump for me. But again its my opinion. I even tried revalving my rear shocks making them softer for the 906. which did help on compression a little.
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I had a look at your build link - you are obviously way more into making things work as well as possible - and using good stuff! Looks good!
I'm more on the budget/superficial end of the spectrum. I did find a pic of my 2000 they day I bought it a few months ago and made a little before/after collage. It's not as golfer-dude-looking (to me) as it was, at least, and a lot more confidence-inspiring on the trail. Still a lot of stuff I'd like to do, but juggling time/money/fam etc....
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My 201v set came today, just waiting on my Tokico's and front coils to come in the mail. VERY beefy and the color is much better than pictures make it out to be. Excited to try them. I'm tired of the Moog coils giving me body roll from every little pebble
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