Originally Posted by jaher

I'm so impressed with everyone's builds and I'm hoping you can give me some advice. I have a '99 with the tall coils, now currently sagging in the rear. Here is what the current measurements are (unloaded):

Hub to fender Existing Tall '99 Springs
Front Left 20 3/4"
Front Right 20 1/2"
Rear Left 20 1/2"
Rear Right 20 1/4"

I carry normally about 75 lbs of tools in the back. I have an aluminum roof rack.

For camping, I pull a pop-up with a 400-500 lb tongue weight, with a weight distribution hitch. Plus, I am carrying my wife, two kids, a large dog and about another 100 lbs of gear/food. I'm running 265 70 R17 - brand new KO's on the new 5th Gen black/silver SR5 wheels - looks really good. We will often take rough four wheel drive roads. Not very much rock crawling though.

I'm looking for a moderate lift, maybe 1" over what original tall spring height. I don't really want to get into lowering the front diff, panhard bar, etc due to limited funds for the rig build. I don't think steel plate bumpers are any where in my near future. I like the idea of rear progressive springs to handle the trailer weight better.

Any suggestions on a suspension setup? Thank you!

Originally Posted by Wrecked - Rebuilt

So I've had my 210v's on my truck for four months now, so I think I can safely give a fair review. This included three months of daily driving and quick trip to Moab, where I hit Top of The World, Elephant Hill, Fins and Things and White Rim.

If I had the stock bumper/stock weight these would be a serious no-go. They give almost as much lift as the OME 861. I'd wager 5-5.5in at stock weights. With my coastal off road plate bumper i'm sitting right at 4.5in. And fully loaded with my full size spare, recovery gear, spares, camping equipment and 50qt cooler with ice I'm right at 4in. When I add my 4xinnovations swingout I'll be at 3.5in [verified by adding another 200lbs to the truck]. They have not settled more than .25in in 10,000mi

My rear setup for the last 4 months:
-Dobinsons 210v [no spacers or stock bump-stops]
-Tokico LC Shocks [top mounting plate bored out for LC hardware]
-Durobump 5.25in extended bumps
-Eimkeith panhard correction kit
-Extended Brake lines
-Sonoran Steel Sway bar relocation/lift [to clear the e-locker motor]
-Stock sway bar links
-Whiteline control arm/panhard bushings.
-255/85r16 Maxxis

This setup did amazingly well on all of the trails. No issues fully flexing out to the bump stops. The driveshaft only makes the slightest contact on the gas tank skid...only noticed the witness marks when inspecting the truck, never heard it hit.

The ride, for a lifted 24year old truck is surprisingly compliant. And once you have it loaded for the weekend the rear of the truck is genuinely comfortable. I was most impressed with how well the coils held weight under 'moderate speed' runs...40mph off road. The coils held the weight while providing enough up travel that I never had the rear bottom out. However the front bottomed out 3-4 times, I hate that feeling.

The 210v's are here to stay on my truck. However, I don't think these are going to be the 'golden ticket' for low height, high flex coils. For me, these fall under the same category as the OME 861. If you are running a plate bumper with swingout, and load the truck up with people these will be great. However, I'd look somewhere else for a stock weight truck.

Originally Posted by Devbot

I too am using 210v+Tokicos and can confirm with no weight the rear is a little bouncy, and I could see how it could get annoying for most, but personally I don't mind it since a rear bumper will be added eventually - on that note, they handle weight incredibly (or at least the 200lbs of gravel I had). One of the very few gambles I'm satisfied with. What side did you put the bigger coil on?
I wouldn't exactly say the 210v are a low lift coil though - they're basically a progressive (and stiffer?) 8 wrap LC coil. Without weight I think I gained about 4in or so, maybe more. Hard to tell when going from clapped to new suspension. But +200lbs made it nearly even with my Tundra front end, maybe 1/2in of rake

Originally Posted by Wrecked - Rebuilt

The one thing I'm always surprised with is how much variance there is between 4runner with the 'same' equipment. With my setup I feel that I'm getting more lift than most. With my 120lb plate bumper, sub, and recovery equipment I'm easily at 4.5in of rear lift. My front is sitting at 3.25in [too tall for my taste]. But I know I'll be able to lower my front suspension to 2.75in once the swingout goes on. I'm not running the centering cones, so maybe it is a result of running whiteline bushings, where there is less binding and the suspension can more freely move? No idea. Maybe I need to take some measurements from my stock 00'

Originally Posted by cdrewferd

I just ordered the 210v and will be getting the Tokicos soon. Don't have a plate rear yet, but will be building one with a dual swingout this winter so that should help bring the height down.

Originally Posted by beklemmung

If you haven't already seen it, I suggest taking a look at this thread: Absalom's Cookie Cutter 4runner Builds - New and Updated! Read through the whole thing; Absalom added two more build options in post #158 on page #11.

Originally Posted by raztec

Interesting read Absalom has. I always assumed the Old Man Emu coil springs were the best options for the 3rd gen 4runners. But he doesn't even mention them once.

Originally Posted by Boss.man

Has anyone considered looking into a lift coil from the 5th gen? I'm definitely sold on the Dobinsons. But I wanted a little more than the 2" a 137v will give.
I know that just swapping the stock coils from a 5th to a 3rd will net about 1" of lift. But I'm looking for 2.5-3" rear lift. I was looking at the C59-325 or the C59-505.

I'm going to pair them with billy 5100's. I believe the 325's are a 1.5" lift for a 5th gen and the 505's are a 2" both at stock weight. And since the 5 is about 1000 lbs heavier than a third, I would think it would handle the 400ish extra pounds I usually have on board.

I just don't want to worry about dropping a coil anywhere. I've also given some consideration the the 137v's with the 10mm packer. But once again do not want to drop a coil.

For reference I was looking at these shocks at wheelers.
5100 Rear Shock Set for 1996-2002 4Runner (1.5"-3" Lift)

Originally Posted by Jaysen4runner

Any 210v forsale before I purchase online? ��

Originally Posted by 2TH4IST

I have ome 891's and 4 runner billies up front on 4th perch (soon to be dropped a notch). Rear are currently 23.75 pass and 24 drivers with a 10mm shim pack on pass side. I have eimkeith's bumper (113 pounds), f150 tank (127lbs full of gas), gas tank skid (45lbs) and the stock steel spare 265/70r16 along with a 1st gen 4runner roll bar in the back. So a total of around 300-350 lbs added to the rear. Just ordered the dobinsons 210v. Hopefully they will work good, i like the 891's but they are already starting to sag (3 months or so now). I dont want sky scraper of a lift, but with the additional weight I'll be adding (spare changed to 255/85r16, and a shelf/drawer system) I hope the 210v's will be good to go. Fronts will be king when I get coin.

Edit 23" both side with a full tank. Earlier measurements were with a quarter tank.