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What other A/transmission fluid do you use?

It is getting harder and harder to locate toyota automatic transmission fluid 00718-ATF00. What other brands do you use and any issues?
The truck is 1997 4WD: Drain plug says DII

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It is getting harder and harder to locate toyota automatic transmission fluid 00718-ATF00. What other brands do you use and any issues?
The truck is 1997 4WD: Drain plug says DII

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I've always used toyota t-iii in in my 2000 sr5 but last time I drained and refilled it with t-iv which is backwards compatible with t-iii as far as I know but others would disagree. I found some t-iii on ebay but the packaging is different otherwise the seller has stellar reviews and rating.
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Like lots of others in this forum, I use Valvoline ATF from Walmart. Not hard to meet the minimum standards of Dexron III., which is all the service manual calls for. Have a DexIII (compatible, since DexIII was discontinued and has been replaced by DexIV) fluid filled to the proper level, you're pretty much 99% of the way to "absolute best you can do" ~ if you want to split hairs over that last 1%, help yourself. Just understand it's not needed or necessary.
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I've always used toyota t-iii in in my 2000 sr5 but last time I drained and refilled it with t-iv which is backwards compatible with t-iii as far as I know but others would disagree. I found some t-iii on ebay but the packaging is different otherwise the seller has stellar reviews and rating.

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You dont have any slipping issues using T4 fluid? That's great to hear. However, there are technical bulletins out there that state our transmissions are not compatible with T4. That suggest to stick with Dextron III compatible fluids. I have seen posts and seen documents of people having transmission slipping using T4 fluid on the internet. So if you start having slipping issues it maybe the fluid. I dont have the TB number. If I locate it I post for you.

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I’ve used standard Valvolive Dex3. Shifted like stock.
Redline D4. Shifted firmer than stock.
Toyota dealer stuff (not sure model). Shifted like stock.
Valvoline max life. Shifts like stock. Seemed to resolve some wear related hesitation, hard shifts, ect.

I have run the max life the last few cycles. Pretty pleased with that stuff. Run Valvoline +4 in my 48re’s and it’s done well. Have confidence in Valvoline ATF.
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You dont have any slipping issues using T4 fluid? That's great to hear. However, there are technical bulletins out there that state our transmissions are not compatible with T4. That suggest to stick with Dextron III compatible fluids. I have seen posts and seen documents of people having transmission slipping using T4 fluid on the internet. So if you start having slipping issues it maybe the fluid. I dont have the TB number. If I locate it I post for you.

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Thanks. I replaced the fluid with t-iv last year and Have not had any issues. But I vť have bought 14 quarts of t-iii fluid and will replace it when I get some time because it just makes me feel better, since I have over 400k miles on my original transmission. Also spoke to toyota service manager who said they use the bulk oil from toyota that meets wjs 3309 requirements.
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Here are the 3 Technical Bulletins on the Only using Dexron II or II in our transmissions. I have all the TB for our 3 gens and this is the only thing I have seen listed 3 times. Everything else is only listed once.

I myself use Dexron compatible fluids and really thinking of going to Valvonline my next change cycle.

Castrol I Believe is the MFG of Toyota Transmission fluid. So the Castrol Dexron equivalent should be as close as we can get to Toyota Fluid without using Toyota Transmission fluid.

The Dexron III fluid equivalents are fine in these transmissions. So pick one that works the best for you. :-)
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Here are the 3 Technical Bulletins on the Only using Dexron II or II in our transmissions. I have all the TB for our 3 gens and this is the only thing I have seen listed 3 times. Everything else is only listed once.

I myself use Dexron compatible fluids and really thinking of going to Valvonline my next change cycle.

Castrol I Believe is the MFG of Toyota Transmission fluid. So the Castrol Dexron equivalent should be as close as we can get to Toyota Fluid without using Toyota Transmission fluid.

The Dexron III fluid equivalents are fine in these transmissions. So pick one that works the best for you. :-)
Thanks for the tsb. I had a hell of a time finding t-iii but the t-iv was readily available. I will go back to t-iii but because I replaced all of the fluid I think it helped since I didn't mix it and ran 10 quarts through the system and then topped it off.
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Valvoline max life full synthetic engine oil and trans fluid is all I've ever used in my truck and all it's ever done is clean the crap out of it. Personally I dont think they're is any "secret sauce" that toyota has in their trans fluid at least in the DeX III. However if my mileage was as high as yours I would be hunting it down as well 🤣😂 superstition and ocd would get the best of me
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Iíll be honest. Iíve used Walmartís Supertech and do a drain and fill once a year. Itís got a drain plug. Itís easy. I do have synthetic Pennzoil multi vehicle that Iím going to start dumping in it.


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Iíll be honest. Iíve used Walmartís Supertech and do a drain and fill once a year. Itís got a drain plug. Itís easy. I do have synthetic Pennzoil multi vehicle that Iím going to start dumping in it.


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Walmart doesnít make ATF so no doubt one of the big name oil outfits makes it. Itís likely just as good as many of the low to mid price point lubricants. I suspect if you followed recommended service intervals with Supertech lubes meeting OE recommendations your rig would live a full life. Rigs die due to neglect and inattention, not store brand lubricant use.
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Thanks for the tsb. I had a hell of a time finding t-iii but the t-iv was readily available. I will go back to t-iii but because I replaced all of the fluid I think it helped since I didn't mix it and ran 10 quarts through the system and then topped it off.
No problem. Yes I have seen people stating its extremely hard to get a hold of anymore. I saw they want $12 or $15 or more a quart for it too. That's crazy. Unfortunately it's supposedly not good to mix transmission fluids.

I mostly just exchange the fluid which is 12 quarts or so when I change fluid. I built a bucket exchanger just for exchanging transmission fluid of all types and all vehicles provided they have a transmission cooler of some type installed. I can exchange it.



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