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Old 01-23-2020, 12:15 AM #31
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Ooh, bummer! Ya the cops don't mess around with speeding, and it's amazing how suddenly the speed limit drops from 65 to 20. Hopefully the biking made up for the bad taste left in your mouth. I'm inclined to agree with you about them keeping an eye out for CA and WA tags, but when I still had my Alabama tag I think they felt sorry for me and let me off a few times.

Now that I think about it, did you happen to go check out the local hot springs in Ketchum? I remember meeting someone out there who seemed pretty knowledgeable about 3rd gen 4runners.
Yeah, I was so pissed that I went to the PD headquarters the next morning and gave the on-duty sergeant an earful. I told this gal that it's a bad sign when a pro law enforcement person like myself is upset with the policing practices of a municipality. I explained the officer obviously knew we weren't from their town and weren't familiar with the areas where the speed limit drops to 20 mph. It was around 8:30pm and there wasn't hardly any other cars on the road nor were there any pedestrians. It was actually a mix of businesses and residential so not clearly an area where reduced speed would be expected. You think you'd be safe from a ticket driving 27 mph, but I was wrong on that one. I ran into a retired firefighter that worked in Los Angeles but now lived in Idaho. He told me he was pulled over a lot until he got rid of his California plates.

Anyway, enough about the Ketchum police force. I did visit those hot springs and my girlfriend and I enjoyed them for a while. They were right off a fire road that we drove down to access some trails. But, I don't remember talking to anyone about 4runners while I was there. It must of been another 3rd Gen enthusiast.
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Old 01-23-2020, 12:29 AM #32
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I started that way too, on the 23rd floor of an apartment building in Washington DC... with just an open parking lot for vehicles. I did a ton of work in that (and other) parking lots, just doing what I could wrap up in a couple hours. I was never hassled despite lots of talk about being hassled online. That was before I knew anyone/met anyone who was in any better of a situation, within a year I was renting a room in a house and had an actual garage, and several friends had places with off-street parking and/or garages.

As for the tools, you'd be surprised what little you need in the way of tools. I worked as a professional wrench (motorcycles) with just a 3-drawer "Rally" box (typical small hand-held thing). 5 screwdrivers, combo wrenches from 8mm to 19mm, 1/4 and 3/8 sockets and ratchets, and 3 or 4 different pliers. Sometimes having a different tool will make a little easier/faster, but rarely is it needed. I suspect you could have the lions share of the tools needed to work on the 4runner stowed IN the 4runner, in the cubby on the back passenger side.

When you start buying tools, don't buy "kits" (sockets and wrenches excluded), just buy what you need to do the job you want to do. Buy the best you can afford... no clue what the "quality home mechanic" brands are these days as I bought into Snap-on for 50% off (deal they extend to those in trade schools, or Did extend at one time) decades ago.

Point I'm trying to make is where there's a will, there's a way. You don't need a ton of tools, or a special space, to do the types of things a new mechanic will be doing. Especially with the 4runner, where you can easily slide under it without lifting it off the ground.
I have to admit I love buying tools. I think I have a tool buying disease just like others on this forum do, @LittleCaesar being one of them. If I think a tool will make my wrenching life easier, I'll buy it. I got by with very little as a kid with my crescent wrench, vice grips and channel locks. It's nice having lots of tools to draw from now to make a job that much easier to accomplish. Why struggle when you can just go back to tool box and pull out another tool that will work better. Some guys that wrench with me are in amazement when I keep pulling out more tools and finally find the one that works for us.
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I have to admit I love buying tools. If I think a tool will make my wrenching life easier, I'll buy it.

I understand, don't happen to agree but I understand. For awhile I made my living spinning wrench, bought the specialty stuff as needed but I don't have duplicates (meaning I don't own ratcheting box-wrench as I already owned both box wrench and ratchets ~ too fine of a niche). Even where I was earning a living, the time savings of "easier" didn't justify the purchase or storage price.

But I look at things differently than most and I know it. "Easier" is a luxury, satisfying a "want" not a "need". And for NEW mechanics, knowing that they don't need this Massive toolbox and collection of tools, is important. They don't have to have stubby, regular and lock combination wrenches, in both standard and ratcheting, metric and SAE (12 different "sets"). They don't need shallow, medium and deep sockets in 1/4, 3/8, and 1/2 in both chrome and impact versions. "Easier" to a new mechanic isn't something they're going to recognize for lack of experience. Now, I might suggest different than I bought/own (those ratcheting combo wrenches didn't exist when I bought the bulk of my tools), but the lions share of tools needed will fit in the smallest toolbox you can buy... I'm thinking a jack/stands, oil catch, etc.. as the exceptions.

Of course, the more you do, the more you need tool-wise. But that's not really important to the new mechanic. I'm not going to recommend a shop press to someone who hasn't even changed all their fluids, or replaced brake components...

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It's true that if this was my only vehicle and I had no choice but to do the work myself, I could find a way. But my parking area would be difficult to work in. Dark, low ceiling, no power outlet remotely close, and cars so close on both sides that I can't fully open my doors. I'd need a jack, jack stands, and chocks to do most of the work that needs to be done. There are better options for me than slogging through that mess - in fact, I think you were the one who previously suggested I look for a shop with space to work. I found a place not more than an hour away called "Your Dream Garage" that charges $20 an hour for a spot to work, with access to just about anything I'd need. Once I have a little experience and self-confidence I intend to try it out (unless of course I have a garage of my own by then). But even with Tim's videos I'm hesitant to drive there and get things taken apart and then run in to trouble and be stranded an hour or more from home with a partially disassembled 4R and the garage closing up. I could take a chance and go for it, but like I said, there are better options for me.
Ah, I don't really pay attention to user names, glad you found an option. Does that setup not have a mentor-type program? I know that typical "hacker spaces" do (people who know the tools/work, you usually have to take a class from them before being allowed ot touch the tools anyway), you just have to pay for their time/schedule when you're there. The other option is to reach out on here.



That's actually one thing I miss from the motorcycle community, the frequency and availability of "tech days". Weekends when a bunch of people would gather at someones house and work on projects. I've always lived in the boonies away from people, but I've driven a couple hundred miles to lend my skills at a few of those events over the years. I think there's a post somewhere else on this forum (different section) that lists people who are willing to help others in need, sure would be nice to see that mirrored in here too with more of a focus on helping with mechanic/maintenance work. Some of us never venture to any other sections than this 3rd gen (seriously, it's the only part of this whole forum I visit/read).
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Consider two books that will explain more about this mindset:

Memoirs of a Hack Mechanic

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Shop Class as Soulcraft
Yes that's a whole nother discussion. My 3rd gen is sort of a zen garden to me. It's funny because I was just listening to a podcast where they were talking about this stuff and a book called Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance. My 3rd gen has a definite esoteric wabi-sabi vibe going.
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Lol, sounds like they only read the first chapter or two.... the book has very little to do with wrenching, it takes a Hard left turn from there and gets plain odd by the end. I read it once, decades ago, when I was in college in Bozeman, MT and Persing was going to visit my English prof (a former student) and our class...
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Here's a personal prime example of DIY saving time & money.
A Friday afternoon. Wife, kids & I headed to in-laws for dinner in our minivan.
Stop at store, there's a "pop" and the brake pedal goes to the floor. Busted a front flex hose. Rear brakes do still work, so drive mile to in-laws. Buy a new hose and brake fluid. Before dinner is ready the car is repaired. Cost $25.
If not DIY it would have been:
Tow to garage ($). They'll check it our Monday or Tuesday. Quote for brake job ($). They'll maybe have it done by the end of the week, maybe next week.
So one hour and $25 vs two weeks and $200.

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Hello! Thank you so much for sharing this! It's definitely true, you can save a lot of money with DIY Auto Mechanics. A couple of days ago I have repaired my car by myself and saved ~100$. That's not bad at all! I am that kind of person that is trying to save money on everything. Moreover, I have recently found a very nice article with some very good side hustle ideas, and now I earn even more money. There are some really simple steps that can help you to increase your financial status.

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Tim I think your right on with your videos if there are some that think they are to long they should just pull a book and go do the repair. My story is similar to yours I to am a late baby boomer and also a retired Fire Fighter( CDf'er you know what that means ha ha). I took all the shop classes in High School and then ended up going to UTI out of High School. I ended up going to work at a Dealer-ship after getting out of UTI after three years I got picked up full time working for CDF.

The amount of money saved by me and the wife is into the Tens of Thousands of dollars if you factor in payments interest, insurance and California Licencing fees. We have owned only two new cars a 1993 Geo Metro and a 2002 Honda Accord EX-L both we drove till the wheels fell off. We currentlly have two 2001 4Runners a SR5 and a Sport model 2wd. One of them has a JDM engine swap and the other I rebuilt the engine. I would not hesitate to drive either one any long distance the wifes SR5 has made 3 Vegas trips and 3 trips to Northern California from Temecula.

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Hello! Thank you so much for sharing this! It's definitely true, you can save a lot of money with DIY Auto Mechanics. A couple of days ago I have repaired my car by myself and saved ~100$. That's not bad at all! I am that kind of person that is trying to save money on everything. Moreover, I have recently found a very nice article with some very good side hustle ideas, and now I earn even more money. There are some really simple steps that can help you to increase your financial status.
Are you here just to distribute links to BS sites about weight loss and cat food?
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