08-13-2022, 04:52 PM
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Need some advice!
I've taken to really enjoying working on my gen 3, I call it the haunted car because she's been through so much but she always comes back...not to mention we are rapidly approaching 300k on the odo. I've done all the most basic maintenance, and even some more involved stuff ie; valve cover gaskets, timing belt etc. But these damn brakes have me stumped and was hoping for an easy fix. I replace pads and rotors as I've done before in the past, but now there's a horrible rubbing noise. After searching the forum and hoping it was just a brake dust cover rubbing which seems to be where the majority members issues are regarding brake noise, messing around with the covers didn't seem to do anything for the rubbing. It looks and sounds like the pads are gently rubbing on the rotor, but I don't know, I took a short video in hopes that someone would be like, "Oh, you're an idiot! It's .............
These are OE rotors and pads, other than the sound the brakes feel good, no leaking from the calipers, no pulling so I'm stumped.
Well, I can't upload the video, but I can share the link to the video right? IMG 1063 GIF by Jackson3OH3 | Gfycat
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08-13-2022, 05:12 PM
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I've taken to really enjoying working on my gen 3, I call it the haunted car because she's been through so much but she always comes back...not to mention we are rapidly approaching 300k on the odo. I've done all the most basic maintenance, and even some more involved stuff ie; valve cover gaskets, timing belt etc. But these damn brakes have me stumped and was hoping for an easy fix. I replace pads and rotors as I've done before in the past, but now there's a horrible rubbing noise. After searching the forum and hoping it was just a brake dust cover rubbing which seems to be where the majority members issues are regarding brake noise, messing around with the covers didn't seem to do anything for the rubbing. It looks and sounds like the pads are gently rubbing on the rotor, but I don't know, I took a short video in hopes that someone would be like, "Oh, you're an idiot! It's .............
These are OE rotors and pads, other than the sound the brakes feel good, no leaking from the calipers, no pulling so I'm stumped.
Well, I can't upload the video, but I can share the link to the video right? IMG 1063 GIF by Jackson3OH3 | Gfycat
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That’s definitely the dust shield rubbing the rotor. Take a small pry bar or screwdriver and pry the dust shield away from the rotor all the way around.
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08-13-2022, 06:15 PM
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That’s definitely the dust shield rubbing the rotor. Take a small pry bar or screwdriver and pry the dust shield away from the rotor all the way around.
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I’ll go around the rotor and manipulate the dust shield again because of your confidence, I did try but maybe not enough. Is it the lack of drag, or what is it that makes you certain it’s the dust shield for future reference. Thanks for replying!
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08-13-2022, 09:44 PM
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I’ll go around the rotor and manipulate the dust shield again because of your confidence, I did try but maybe not enough. Is it the lack of drag, or what is it that makes you certain it’s the dust shield for future reference. Thanks for replying!
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Brake pads dragging make a more muted sound. The sounds from your video is more metal on metal (dust shield on rotor). I did see you have a lug nut on to keep the rotor flat against the hub which is good.
If you go over to the other side a use a screwdriver to pry one of the brake pads against the rotor while spinning you should be able to hear the difference.
Edit: if you rotate the rotor like you did before to make the noise you should be able to hear a change in tone/volume by grabbing the dust shield. Kind of like muting a drum or cymbal if that makes since,
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08-13-2022, 10:09 PM
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I think
@ Bad Luck
nailed it
Just bend the dust shield away from the rotor and make sure the 4 bolts holding the shield on are tight
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08-14-2022, 09:26 AM
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I am just impressed the dust shields are still on the rig. As around here the environment removes them in 10 to 15 years. :O
I agree with the other two members. Most likely the dust shield is causing the running.
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08-14-2022, 09:28 AM
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I feel foolish for even asking, so I appreciate the replies. Thank you!
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08-14-2022, 12:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bad Luck
Brake pads dragging make a more muted sound. The sounds from your video is more metal on metal (dust shield on rotor). I did see you have a lug nut on to keep the rotor flat against the hub which is good.
If you go over to the other side a use a screwdriver to pry one of the brake pads against the rotor while spinning you should be able to hear the difference.
Edit: if you rotate the rotor like you did before to make the noise you should be able to hear a change in tone/volume by grabbing the dust shield. Kind of like muting a drum or cymbal if that makes since,
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So I took your advice, and went back in there with a screwdriver. While spinning the rotor I was able to change the "tone" if you will by manipulating the DS and narrowed it down to the bottom part of the shield where it was rubbing. It now only slightly makes a noise while turning, and I think I'm ok with that. Yesterday while manipulating the dust shield I only moved the top part of it, not realizing it was rubbing the inside of the rotor, so thanks again for answering my noob question.
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08-14-2022, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 70IN4Lo
So I took your advice, and went back in there with a screwdriver. While spinning the rotor I was able to change the "tone" if you will by manipulating the DS and narrowed it down to the bottom part of the shield where it was rubbing. It now only slightly makes a noise while turning, and I think I'm ok with that. Yesterday while manipulating the dust shield I only moved the top part of it, not realizing it was rubbing the inside of the rotor, so thanks again for answering my noob question.
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You can literally bend them by hand..leave around 1/2" or more of space all around and you'll be noise-free
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08-14-2022, 06:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 70IN4Lo
So I took your advice, and went back in there with a screwdriver. While spinning the rotor I was able to change the "tone" if you will by manipulating the DS and narrowed it down to the bottom part of the shield where it was rubbing. It now only slightly makes a noise while turning, and I think I'm ok with that. Yesterday while manipulating the dust shield I only moved the top part of it, not realizing it was rubbing the inside of the rotor, so thanks again for answering my noob question.
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You’re welcome bud. I’m glad you figured it out
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