[itskohler]

Afternoon everyone! With the recent shut downs of damn near everything in my area, I'm seizing the opportunity to get around to some stuff on the 4R. I plan on dropping the pan and replacing the filter since there's been no record of it ever being done. I really don't want to deal with the FIPG, and have seen posts from other members saying they are using rubber gaskets with great success. Google can be scary when it comes to gaskets, never know how reliable some odd gasket might be, so I wanted to ask those who have gone this route what they used. Any suggestions?

Also, I'll be doing the LBJs, valve cover gaskets, fuel filter, plugs/wires, steering bushings, and a few small interior fixes. While I'm doing that stuffs, are there other things I should do in those areas?

Thanks for all yalls time!

[JZiggy]

FIPG is the best solution and it's not too hard to use. Here's my mini writeup with FSM page attached.

https://www.toyota-4runner.org/3138134-post176.html

[VernySanders]

Originally Posted by itskohler

Afternoon everyone! With the recent shut downs of damn near everything in my area, I'm seizing the opportunity to get around to some stuff on the 4R. I plan on dropping the pan and replacing the filter since there's been no record of it ever being done. I really don't want to deal with the FIPG, and have seen posts from other members saying they are using rubber gaskets with great success. Google can be scary when it comes to gaskets, never know how reliable some odd gasket might be, so I wanted to ask those who have gone this route what they used. Any suggestions?

Also, I'll be doing the LBJs, valve cover gaskets, fuel filter, plugs/wires, steering bushings, and a few small interior fixes. While I'm doing that stuffs, are there other things I should do in those areas?

Thanks for all yalls time!

https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...an+gasket,8612

This is the link youre looking for. Auto trans pan gasket. Go with the felpro or the mahle

[JMat]

I agree with @JZiggy ... FIPG was simple to use and haven't had even a hint of a leak.

[Brian.]

Somewhere in here there are a few people who've had issues with gaskets on the trans-pan, where the pan deformed into the gasket and then failed to seal. There wasn't a whole lot of detail, but there were a few people with similar stories.

The FIPG was easy enough for me, both removal and re-installation.

[itskohler]

Thanks for the replies everyone. PFIG it is!

What about the other stuff I've got planned? Any suggestions of what to do while I'm already in those areas?

[3bears]

another thing I question is how easy it is to strip the pan mounting bolts ( I know) and wonder if a rubber or rubber/cork gaskets might make it easy to strip to get to seal well. Not saying it is or can be a issue...just thinking out loud
the old school part of me would prefer a gasket...but I went FPIG when I did mine on recommendations on this forum

[3bears]

another thing I question is how easy it is to strip the pan mounting bolts ( I know) and wonder if a rubber or rubber/cork gaskets might make it easy to strip to get to seal well. Not saying it is or can be a issue...just thinking out loud
the old school part of me would prefer a gasket...but I went FPIG when I did mine it was on recommendations on this forum

Its been near 100k since I last dropped my pan, and at the time all I did was clean the filter...at the time the then local Toyota dealer ( Lassen Albany Oregon) did not even stock the filter...they said all they did was clean them as it is just a big screen ( and I had the pan off so thats what I did). I have since learned otherwise. So when and if I do it again this summer ( flushed about 30k ago, but might be bored and need a project) I might go gasket....however...maybe not...as it will prob be the last time I drop the pan ( 245k on the girl now)
If it was a tranny I was planning on going into often. or younger in its or my years, Id prob go gasket as some are often reusable, and they clean up fast and/or swap out easy

[4Runner4Leon]

I may be in the minority, but I used a premium rubber gasket when doing my trans filter, and don't have a drop of oil leaking two years later.

As another thought, in my case I found the whole job to be a waste of time. The original screen was actually pretty darn clean, and I ended up cleaning and reusing it because I liked it better than the aftermarket screen I bought.

[itskohler]

Originally Posted by 4Runner4Leon

I may be in the minority, but I used a premium rubber gasket when doing my trans filter, and don't have a drop of oil leaking two years later.

As another thought, in my case I found the whole job to be a waste of time. The original screen was actually pretty darn clean, and I ended up cleaning and reusing it because I liked it better than the aftermarket screen I bought.

I'm worried it will be a waste of time for me as well, but I've got a hard shift in second and third if the RPMs aren't above 2500. I'm hoping a drain and fill with a new filter while I'm down there might help a bit. After reading how it made others have buttery smooth transmissions im hopeful but I'm also aware it might be something more involved. Using the ideology i picked up while wrenching on motorcycles; start with the cheapest fix and work your way up.

[4Runner4Leon]

I'd start with a full flush and see if that fixes your issues.

[tvpierce]

Originally Posted by 4Runner4Leon

I may be in the minority, but I used a premium rubber gasket when doing my trans filter, and don't have a drop of oil leaking two years later.

As another thought, in my case I found the whole job to be a waste of time. The original screen was actually pretty darn clean, and I ended up cleaning and reusing it because I liked it better than the aftermarket screen I bought.

This was my experience as well. Screen was clean, and the original looked like it was better built than the replacement, so I just rinsed it off and re-installed.
I also used a rubber gasket, and it sealed perfectly.

The difficult part of FIPG is removing it... it's a pain in the ass to get it scraped off without damaging the mounting surface. Installation is a breeze.

Originally Posted by itskohler

I'm worried it will be a waste of time for me as well, but I've got a hard shift in second and third if the RPMs aren't above 2500. I'm hoping a drain and fill with a new filter while I'm down there might help a bit. After reading how it made others have buttery smooth transmissions im hopeful but I'm also aware it might be something more involved. Using the ideology i picked up while wrenching on motorcycles; start with the cheapest fix and work your way up.

I would drain and refill. Then flush via one of the cooler lines. That will give you a more thorough fluid change. Replacing the screen really does nothing unless you have large chunks of (???) in the pan -- which you don't.

[itskohler]

Originally Posted by tvpierce

This was my experience as well. Screen was clean, and the original looked like it was better built than the replacement, so I just rinsed it off and re-installed.
I also used a rubber gasket, and it sealed perfectly.

The difficult part of FIPG is removing it... it's a pain in the ass to get it scraped off without damaging the mounting surface. Installation is a breeze.




I would drain and refill. Then flush via one of the cooler lines. That will give you a more thorough fluid change. Replacing the screen really does nothing unless you have large chunks of (???) in the pan -- which you don't.

Noted. Ill look into doing that first.

Originally Posted by 4Runner4Leon

I'd start with a full flush and see if that fixes your issues.

Good deal, I'll see about doing that at home. I live in a semi rural area and I'm not sure if any of the shops use the correct TTech machines.

[4Runner4Leon]

Originally Posted by itskohler

Noted. Ill look into doing that first.

Good deal, I'll see about doing that at home. I live in a semi rural area and I'm not sure if any of the shops use the correct TTech machines.

Just use Timmy's "coolant line" flush method, no machine needed! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RumPXivBlk8

[JMat]

Originally Posted by tvpierce

This was my experience as well. Screen was clean, and the original looked like it was better built than the replacement, so I just rinsed it off and re-installed.
I also used a rubber gasket, and it sealed perfectly.

The difficult part of FIPG is removing it... it's a pain in the ass to get it scraped off without damaging the mounting surface. Installation is a breeze.

I was anticipating a real fight trying to get the old FIPG off but it took less than 15 minutes to clean the whole thing up. I scraped as much as I could off and then used a soft wire brush... Piece of cake.