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I'm planning on a Lefty in my '99 manual trans. I've just come across too many situations so far where 1st gear/LO is still too fast, and I'm either doing a mad pedal shuffle and slipping the clutch (and starting to smell hot clutch), or just bashing over something faster than I wanted to go while trying to finesse the pedal to keep 1000 - 1200 PRM so it won't stall.

I was a little worried that a Lefty with 4.7 would leave a gap between 5th/LO and 1st/HI. Currently there's a lot of overlap, 5th LO is somewhere between 2nd and 3rd HI.

Some quick Excel crunching and it looks like there won't be an annoying gap between them. 5TH/LO with the 4.7 ratio is 3.93:1, pretty close to 1st/HI (3.83). No annoying gear range hole between them. No overlap either, but that would be a pretty specific trail situation where you'd have an urge to be shifting past 5th/LO and then back down under 1st/HI.

My wife is planning on getting the taco box doubler on her manual '96. So she'll have all the options. HI/HI 1:1, HI/LO (or LO/HI) 2.28:1, or LO/LO (5.3:1).

is the rear driveshaft length an issue on a double taco box manual? Or is that more of a concern on the automatics?
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I'm planning on a Lefty in my '99 manual trans. I've just come across too many situations so far where 1st gear/LO is still too fast, and I'm either doing a mad pedal shuffle and slipping the clutch (and starting to smell hot clutch), or just bashing over something faster than I wanted to go while trying to finesse the pedal to keep 1000 - 1200 PRM so it won't stall.

I was a little worried that a Lefty with 4.7 would leave a gap between 5th/LO and 1st/HI. Currently there's a lot of overlap, 5th LO is somewhere between 2nd and 3rd HI.

Some quick Excel crunching and it looks like there won't be an annoying gap between them. 5TH/LO with the 4.7 ratio is 3.93:1, pretty close to 1st/HI (3.83). No annoying gear range hole between them. No overlap either, but that would be a pretty specific trail situation where you'd have an urge to be shifting past 5th/LO and then back down under 1st/HI.

My wife is planning on getting the taco box doubler on her manual '96. So she'll have all the options. HI/HI 1:1, HI/LO (or LO/HI) 2.28:1, or LO/LO (5.3:1).

is the rear driveshaft length an issue on a double taco box manual? Or is that more of a concern on the automatics?

Front and rear shafts have to be extended/shortened.


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One of many things. Someone earlier had mentioned a possible issue with the new shorter length of the rear shaft. But I think the manual trans drivetrains are a bit shorter than the automatics, and was curious if the rear driveshaft would still be so short as to cause issues with a lift and a lot of travel?
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Trevor said the issue with the leftys was that the output shafts were breaking due to its small size or lack of oil lubrication.
That's strange. I've had my lefty since 2011 and it was built with chromoly 30-spline output shafts front and rear. So upgraded output shafts were definitely an option.
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That's strange. I've had my lefty since 2011 and it was built with chromoly 30-spline output shafts front and rear. So upgraded output shafts were definitely an option.
From my understanding, the older 30-spline chromoly shafts didn’t have the ability to run oil through them, so there were instances where they would burn up and break if under larger/heavier loads. The new 30-spline shafts Marlin just came out with fixes that.
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From a user comment 3 weeks ago on Inchworm's FB page, they said they are working on getting inventory levels back up. That is all I have heard.

I would order a Lefty right now if it were available, so if anyone has any intel I'd love to hear...
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From a user comment 3 weeks ago on Inchworm's FB page, they said they are working on getting inventory levels back up. That is all I have heard.

I would order a Lefty right now if it were available, so if anyone has any intel I'd love to hear...
I would order 2 of them! Lol.. been emailing Marlin every once and a while, last email 9/3 “we will be accepting orders in the next couple months once our build list is brought down”.

Was gunna get on the trail gear Labor Day sale but I’d prefer to wait for Marlin..
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Was gunna get on the trail gear Labor Day sale but I’d prefer to wait for Marlin..
Same! I was looking at making my own competing version, but I'd rather have an Inchworm/Marlin Lefty as well! (plus I don't want to finance that level of production - I certainly appreciate both those companies for doing that)
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I'd certainly hope I'm on the list for one.

My wife just got a Tacobox from them, she's in the middle (or beginning) of putting that in her '96.
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yes. - plus this has the benefit of not steepening the angle of the rear driveshaft on the 4Runner...
What do you guys expect the price tag of one of these to be? Should we expect the manufacturer to sell options already equipped with 4.7 gearsets? That would be amazing.
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What do you guys expect the price tag of one of these to be? Should we expect the manufacturer to sell options already equipped with 4.7 gearsets? That would be amazing.

I’m sure the 4.7 low will be an option; it always has been.

Inchworm Lefty’s were about 2-2.5(IIRC); I would expect Marlin to (probably) sell them for 3-4.


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I doubt that is going to happen...

A single case 4.7 lefty needs to be $2500 or less, any more and you are getting into Atlas kind-of money.
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I doubt that is going to happen...

A single case 4.7 lefty needs to be $2500 or less, any more and you are getting into Atlas kind-of money.
It'll probably be whatever Trail Gear's Verso is/was (is that still offered?)

The upsides are that it can be doubled, and it packages really well - under the floor and no need to clock it.

That said, at a certain weight level the Atlas makes more sense.
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