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Old 04-15-2020, 01:27 AM #16
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4600 and Monomax are known to ride like dog shat. KYB GaJ or OEM. 5100s if you want to spend it.
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blue and yellow Bilstein 4600's, if keeping stock height. 5100's if lifting a bit. Just about to put a set of 4600's on my 2001 with 5th gen springs all 4 corners
The 5th gen springs? Do they make a difference on any way or just your preference? Any mod if I want to use them? Thank you
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The 5th gen springs? Do they make a difference on any way or just your preference? Any mod if I want to use them? Thank you
They fit right on, I haven't actually installed them yet. Waiting for the rest of my parts to arrive. Doing shocks, springs, top mounts, LCA bushings and ball joints all together. Should have it done in a few weeks. 5th gen springs should net about an 1" of lift up front and about 1.5-2" in the rear. depending on how much sag you have to begin with. I've already installed the rear springs and they ride nice, firm but not too stiff.
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For my 02 I went with the 4600s paired with new 99 moog coils in the back, and sensen strut combos in the front (sensen was not my choice at the time but they’ve held up well). Couldn’t be happier for my daily driver that occasionally sees the trails. I’ve been running this combo now for 3 years with no issues, still maintains a slight boost over stock height.


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They fit right on, I haven't actually installed them yet. Waiting for the rest of my parts to arrive. Doing shocks, springs, top mounts, LCA bushings and ball joints all together. Should have it done in a few weeks. 5th gen springs should net about an 1" of lift up front and about 1.5-2" in the rear. depending on how much sag you have to begin with. I've already installed the rear springs and they ride nice, firm but not too stiff.
No issue with frame rub with the larger dia rear spring?

Someone gave me a set off a 2016 Trail Edition that I was going to install on my 00 Limited and then started reading about issues of rubbing and such, I had planned on using them with 5100s all the way around maybe tundra 5100 up front.

Once you have a complete install please report back with any issues.

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No issue with frame rub with the larger dia rear spring?

Someone gave me a set off a 2016 Trail Edition that I was going to install on my 00 Limited and then started reading about issues of rubbing and such, I had planned on using them with 5100s all the way around maybe tundra 5100 up front.

Once you have a complete install please report back with any issues.

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I had read those same concerns, but I got the whole 5th gen set for free, and figured I'd try it out. 25 minutes to swap out springs lol. I've had them on for about 2k miles and haven't had any rubbing issues. They are NOT as tall (uncompressed, side by side) as the OEM 3rd gen springs, so at full droop you can wiggle the spring pretty good. As far as the perch on the axle, there's maybe an 1/8" difference to where the OE spring sat. Overall I'm happy with it, rides very nice. Granted mine's a daily pavement queen (2WD) not sure Id recommend these for anyone on the trail, I'd be worried about it possibly falling out if you really flexed the rear end.
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I ran ToyTecs on my 4Runner for years but finally decided to upgrade to Kings. The ToyTecs road okay but the custom setup options won me over after riding in a couple vehicles setup with custom setup Kings. Yeah - it is not cheap but there is a huge difference between off the shelf suspension parts and custom setup parts.
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I ran ToyTecs on my 4Runner for years but finally decided to upgrade to Kings. The ToyTecs road okay but the custom setup options won me over after riding in a couple vehicles setup with custom setup Kings. Yeah - it is not cheap but there is a huge difference between off the shelf suspension parts and custom setup parts.
Which Kings did you get? I'm about to upgrade to coilovers since I just bought a front bumper and winch which adds about 180lbs up front.
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On my wife's '96 4Runner we put in KYB Gas-Adjust shocks and Moog springs on all four corners and it rides really nice. On my '98 4Runner I just put in Bilstein 5100 shocks and OME springs (2" lift) and while they ride a bit stiffer than the KYBs, they are fantastic and I love the feel.
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Which Kings did you get? I'm about to upgrade to coilovers since I just bought a front bumper and winch which adds about 180lbs up front.
I ordered them thru Filthy Motorsports. Their service is A+++ . The process is is not just "click and buy" with them. We talked on the phone about my rig's setup, weight, my habits, the load out, and any future plants to make sure I get the best shocks possible.
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I love how these threads start out with someone looking for stock replacement shocks and end at King coilovers!
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So, out of those 3 options, it sounds like the Bilsteins are probably the best way to go without dropping a small fortune on shocks? So I should be able to get both rear Bilsteins for around $200 including tax? Maybe I'm just cheap, but that's still a lot of money for shocks. I just dropped $300 in fluids so I can change my transmission, both differentials, and the transfer case, plus Toyota crush washers.
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How about the Gabriel shocks? I was watching YouTube videos the other day and a few people have put them on their 4Runners. They are inexpensive ($35-40 each). I'm curious how well they hold up for the budget minded folks?
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I love how these threads start out with someone looking for stock replacement shocks and end at King coilovers!
I played the budget route long enough. I just wish I had made this decision four years ago when I first replaced my ToyTecs. My trip to Death Valley sealed the deal for wanting the best I could buy.
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Definitely following this thread. OP you and i have pretty much identical set ups, I also have a 2001 SR5 with 5th gen wheels except they’re still silver for now. My shocks and possibly struts are on their way out. Anyway i can tell the difference without taking it to a shop?
I don’t think so. Just keep in mind they are about 18 year old shocks if they are still stock. It’s just something I want to replace before they go bad per say. Also in my list it’s radiator
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