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Old 04-28-2020, 02:08 PM #31
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This kit will fit a 1st Gen Tacoma axle. Does your Tacoma have ABS? If it does, these brackets will fit fine, if not, I can make brackets without the ABS cut-out. Take a look at the picture of the brackets laid out in the back of my 4Runner. The sets on the right are for non-ABS axle housings.

The parking brake assembly will work also, but it's a bit different for a Tacoma. I have it set up on my 1st Gen Tacoma using a 4Runner parking brake handle mounted between the seats. PM me and we can discuss it more.



I don't disagree with you; however, I'd love to hear what you have to say about running a proportioning valve on an ABS set-up.

My thought is that the ABS gets it's input from the axle shaft rotation and makes adjustments from there. Rear disc brakes don't change how the ABS system gets its input from the rear axle shaft. In my mind, the system will function as designed.

On my 4Runner, I deleted the ABS system and I do run a manual proportioning valve. But I don't think a proportioning valve is a required item for a kit designed to work with ABS.
Truck had ABS but I ripped it out. Still has the sensors in there though. Likely change to a T100 axle in the future anyways. But ABS ones will be fine.

Will send a PM. looking at it I think it'll be easy enough to make the ebrake work.
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Truck had ABS but I ripped it out. Still has the sensors in there though.
Ok, I'll put you down for a set with the ABS cut-out.
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The only way to know for sure would be to test braking distance before and after install, which I have not done. So I can't give you any factual, tested information.



I don't have any plans to provide a rock shield. I've heard of rocks getting stuck between backing plates and rotors, but never between pads and rotors. Have you had this happen? The pads are just about touching the rotors. That doesn't leave much room for rocks to get between them.
Actually its rare but yes I had this happen. Not on a 4 runner but Camry and other vehicles. Granted the closer the pads sits the less this likely this can happen. I was just curious.. The rock climbers and heavy off-roading would know if this would be a benefit or not. I know they are on the front for a reason and it could be simply to keep the disc drier as I never thoroughly looked into it. :-)
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I don't disagree with you; however, I'd love to hear what you have to say about running a proportioning valve on an ABS set-up.

My thought is that the ABS gets it's input from the axle shaft rotation and makes adjustments from there. Rear disc brakes don't change how the ABS system gets its input from the rear axle shaft. In my mind, the system will function as designed.

On my 4Runner, I deleted the ABS system and I do run a manual proportioning valve. But I don't think a proportioning valve is a required item for a kit designed to work with ABS.
I ripped out the whole ABS actuator too...

On a rig that still has ABS, the ABS computer will still receive the correct signals to detect wheel slip, but now ABS will be kicking in far, far more often for the rear brakes.

Further, the actual brake/ABS pulses will still be of the same strength (ABS system would assume drum brake power) and cause a longer duration of ABS activation. I still think a proportioning valve would benefit by reducing power sent to the now rear disk brakes.
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Really looking forward to this kit, was going to rebuild my drums with new backing plates because mine are rusty but I'd much rather do this conversion and it will likely cost less.

I still have my abs system installed but it doesn't function because I don't have the front sensors hooked up, so I will probably take the opportunity to delete it entirely and install a proportioning valve

Would you recommend installing a residual valve as well to help with the issue of rotor runout pushing the piston back into the caliper and causing a soft pedal? and for anyone who has a residual valve, would you just attach it at the T fitting for the rear brake lines?
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Iím in for a kit and parking brake assembly
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Sign me up for a kit with an E-Brake set up as well please.

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This kit will fit a 1st Gen Tacoma axle. Does your Tacoma have ABS? If it does, these brackets will fit fine, if not, I can make brackets without the ABS cut-out. Take a look at the picture of the brackets laid out in the back of my 4Runner. The sets on the right are for non-ABS axle housings.

The parking brake assembly will work also, but it's a bit different for a Tacoma. I have it set up on my 1st Gen Tacoma using a 4Runner parking brake handle mounted between the seats. PM me and we can discuss it more.



I don't disagree with you; however, I'd love to hear what you have to say about running a proportioning valve on an ABS set-up.

My thought is that the ABS gets it's input from the axle shaft rotation and makes adjustments from there. Rear disc brakes don't change how the ABS system gets its input from the rear axle shaft. In my mind, the system will function as designed.

On my 4Runner, I deleted the ABS system and I do run a manual proportioning valve. But I don't think a proportioning valve is a required item for a kit designed to work with ABS.
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Sub'd.

I'm not quite ready for this yet, but I'll be watching closely in the meantime.
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I am interested in seeing how much the parking brake kit will cost after you figure it out... I will probably buy both the brackets and the cable kit if reasonable. Subscribed!
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I already have the disc brake setup on mine but am definitely interested in the parking brake cable kit if I can get it seperate.

Good job, this looks like a solid kit.
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Just found out I'm going back to work on the 4th. I also did the research and Powerstop makes the calipers. I've had great results with their front TBU calipers so I'll use those. If there's still a kit left I'll take one. I'll also take the parking brake kit to hold me over until I can get the t-case lock. Shoot me a PM about what you have left from your t-case lock set-up when you get time and maybe I'll grab that from you as well. Thanks for getting the plates together for this.
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I've been working on this project for a few years and finally had some time to get serious about it. The design is complete and fabrication is in progress.
I know you and I have corresponded about this setup in the past. Looks like you have done a terrific job. as always your work is top notch.

I put this vid togeather that shows my setup. the one issue I'm having with the ebrake setup... well I will let the vid do the talking. wondering if you can lock up the rears with the cable setup your running?

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I'm definitely interested in a setup with the parking brake.
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I'm totally in for the conversion kit as well as the emergency brake kit as well this will be a welcoming site to a 20 year old 2000 4runner
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Iím Interested in a setup including parking brake! If thereís still room on the list 😂
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