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Rocker panel sliders
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In the Jeep world I see quite a few of them jus cut the rocker panels off and weld 2x4 square tubing into the place of the rocker panels. Just wondering if anyone here done that? Any linkS or pictures Would be greatly appreciated.
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06-01-2020, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 4restGump
Hello all
In the Jeep world I see quite a few of them jus cut the rocker panels off and weld 2x4 square tubing into the place of the rocker panels. Just wondering if anyone here done that? Any linkS or pictures Would be greatly appreciated.
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Jeeps are unibody construction rather than body on frame. Doing this with a body on frame vehicle (our 4Runner is this type) would cause a lot of stress on the body, body mounts, and body mount bolts. Instead of the frame holding the body you would be asking the body/body mounts/body mount bolts to hole the weight of the frame and everything attached to it. You would eventually (probably pretty quickly depending on how gnarly you would hit them) end up ripping out the body mount from the body or snapping a bolt or worse. That's why everyone mounts the sliders to the frame (bolted or welded).
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06-01-2020, 09:05 PM
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Jeeps are unibody construction rather than body on frame. Doing this with a body on frame vehicle (our 4Runner is this type) would cause a lot of stress on the body, body mounts, and body mount bolts. Instead of the frame holding the body you would be asking the body/body mounts/body mount bolts to hole the weight of the frame and everything attached to it. You would eventually (probably pretty quickly depending on how gnarly you would hit them) end up ripping out the body mount from the body or snapping a bolt or worse. That's why everyone mounts the sliders to the frame (bolted or welded).
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I’m not sure what you mean by this?
Are you saying if he hits the body on a rock, he’d rip the body mount bolt through the body, or off the frame?
Another thing to consider is the flex of the body and frame.
If you weld a 2x4x1/8(3/16) to the rockers, the flex from the body is eventually going to rip the body apart where you welded the tube.
Stick with the frame mount option
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frame mount on these 4 runners...of course
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Originally Posted by Bad Luck
Jeeps are unibody construction rather than body on frame. Doing this with a body on frame vehicle (our 4Runner is this type) would cause a lot of stress on the body, body mounts, and body mount bolts. Instead of the frame holding the body you would be asking the body/body mounts/body mount bolts to hole the weight of the frame and everything attached to it. You would eventually (probably pretty quickly depending on how gnarly you would hit them) end up ripping out the body mount from the body or snapping a bolt or worse. That's why everyone mounts the sliders to the frame (bolted or welded).
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Thank you for the clarification.
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Originally Posted by 4restGump
Hello all
In the Jeep world I see quite a few of them jus cut the rocker panels off and weld 2x4 square tubing into the place of the rocker panels. Just wondering if anyone here done that? Any linkS or pictures Would be greatly appreciated.
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Are you referring to boat side rockers? One down fall would be the body on frame design as mentioned. Another would be having to reroute all the wiring. Plus, doing boat side rockers correctly would most likely require you to tie some reinforcement into your pillar post. It'd be quite the undertaking on our 4runner's.
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I’m not sure what you mean by this?
Are you saying if he hits the body on a rock, he’d rip the body mount bolt through the body, or off the frame?
Another thing to consider is the flex of the body and frame.
If you weld a 2x4x1/8(3/16) to the rockers, the flex from the body is eventually going to rip the body apart where you welded the tube.
Stick with the frame mount option
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Most likely ripping it from the body.
A body on frame is more desirable for off roading than a unibody due to the frames resistance to twisting. For Jeeps, their body mounts side directly on top of the frame rails, and bolt into the frame itself.
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I’m not sure what you mean by this?
Are you saying if he hits the body on a rock, he’d rip the body mount bolt through the body, or off the frame?
Another thing to consider is the flex of the body and frame.
If you weld a 2x4x1/8(3/16) to the rockers, the flex from the body is eventually going to rip the body apart where you welded the tube.
Stick with the frame mount option
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The body was never designed to hold the weight of the frame and drivetrain components. I've seen some people use sliders like a 5th wheel. Climb up a large rock with a front wheel, then front wheel drops off and they slide on said large rock with the sliders holding the entire weight of one side of the vehicle until the rear tire can climb up it. That's a lot of weight and stress that body mounts and body mount hardware were never meant to see when designed.
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This has got to be one of the goofiest ideas ever.
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Originally Posted by 4restGump
In the Jeep world I see quite a few of them jus cut the rocker panels off and weld 2x4 square tubing into the place of the rocker panels. Just wondering if anyone here done that? Any linkS or pictures Would be greatly appreciated.
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Do you mean something like this?
Toyota 4Runner Rock Sliders Body Armor #ROCK5405T
Sleekster 5th Gen 4Runner Rockers [RED_INC_Sleeksters] - $890.00 : Sonoran Steel Fabrication LLC, Toyota Truck Parts
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Holy youknowwhat! I wish they had some drop test results or a video! Good find!
Edit: Still seems like a really dumb idea, but I'm willing to eat my words if anyone can prove they actually would hold up to more than a mall curb or shopping cart.
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Originally Posted by Bad Luck
Holy youknowwhat! I wish they had some drop test results or a video! Good find!
Edit: Still seems like a really dumb idea, but I'm willing to eat my words if anyone can prove they actually would hold up to more than a mall curb or shopping cart.
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I first saw those on sonoran steels website about 4-5 years ago. I thought the product information was interesting but still liked the idea of frame mounted sliders. I forgot about them until this thread reminded me.
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They have body mounted sliders for wranglers too, it isn't just cherokees...
Probably plenty for mild off roading. I wouldn't plan to really bang those off rocks though.
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The 3rd Gen won't allow for that kind of mounting. You would need to have something that had the same curve as the rocker, and attach to that.
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They have body mounted sliders for wranglers too, it isn't just cherokees...
Probably plenty for mild off roading. I wouldn't plan to really bang those off rocks though.
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I've only seen it on unibody jeeps. Cherokees, Grand Cherokees, Compasses, etc. Never seen a set on a wrangler. Looks pretty weird to me.
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I've only seen it on unibody jeeps. Cherokees, Grand Cherokees, Compasses, etc. Never seen a set on a wrangler. Looks pretty weird to me.
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The factory "rock rails" on JL Wranglers are body mounted...
Why would anyone choose body mount sliders? | 2018+ Jeep Wrangler Forums (JL / JLU) - Rubicon, Sahara, Sport, Unlimited - JLwranglerforums.com
Frame Mounted vs. Body Mounted Sliders? | Jeep Wrangler TJ Forum
(that was just the first two google links from a quick search)
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