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Truck Leaning
Ok, I'm stumped. Have recently done a ton of work on my 4runner (original owner; 240k wonderful miles) including:
-new '99 tall front springs
-new bilstein 5100 shocks all around (front height set at lowest level)
-new OME 890 rear springs
-new front shock tophats
-new suspension bushings everywhere
when measuring the height from the bottom of the wheel well to the ground, i'm seeing the following:
- front: driver side is lower by .75" vs passenger side
- rear: driver side is lower by .75" vs passenger side
i've checked that the orientation of the springs are the same from side to side. tire pressure has been checked. all tires bought at the same time and are only a few months old. all front end related items were torqued to spec with the wheels on the ground.
Only thing I can think of: did I put the springs on the wrong side? can someone w/ the same springs tell me what colors are painted on ea side?
Thanks in advance!
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06-02-2020, 01:09 PM
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Panhard correction kit fixed my drivers side lean, but I have 3” of lift, maybe an adjustable bar would be better for you
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06-02-2020, 01:58 PM
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If it didn't lean before and now after a new suspension it leans, it has to be something you put on. I will say that the top hats take a while to settle in so that might be your 1/2". If not I'd post up what color codes you have on what side and others who know them well can assist.
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06-02-2020, 02:15 PM
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Check your sway bars as well. I put my lift on and had a lean which ended up somehow my swaybar bracket bent and was wedged upward so that it caused a slight lean.
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Front spring colors:
driver side: blue/red
pass side: blue/yellow
sway bar is perfect. had no trouble lining it up with the end links
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OME 2906s are side specific, are the 890s as well?
Yes, your front colours look right by my notes.
@ phattyduck
has mentioned loosening then retorquing controll arms front and rear at the new ride height to allow the bushings to find their new comfort zone. Maybe this?
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I believe the 890‘s are not side specific. they also had no color indicators on them.
thanks for the input.
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ill check them but all the bushings are new. the front sway bar was just reinstalled recently because I installed a new steering rack. up front looked ....well, right. torqued everything to spec.
regarding weight, you are correct. driver side sag is a common problem but I wouldn't expect it after just reinstalling new springs and shocks up front.
really appreciate all the input! hopefully will get this figured out soon. it drives me nuts knowing there's a sag w all new gear.
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Quote:
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I believe the 890‘s are not side specific. they also had no color indicators on them.
thanks for the input.
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No, they don’t have color codes. The 2906s have a tag a or B indicating sides. I really can’t say if the 890s do also.
You might need a 5mm trim packer on the drivers rear if the 890s are both exactly the same.
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I have the same issue after installing Toytec coilovers and 1” body lift. I’m convinced it’s due to driving without a passenger. Just need to wait for the suspension to settle. Hasn’t happened following installation due to this covid nonsense.
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Quote:
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I believe the 890‘s are not side specific. they also had no color indicators on them.
thanks for the input.
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890 are side-specific. Mine came with labels on both. A for driver-side and B for passenger-side.
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let's approach this slightly differently.
- first ill check the center bolt on the springs to make sure one isn't compressed more than the other. we have ruled out the front springs being installed on the wrong side.
- second, if I disconnect the sway bars front and back from the end links and the issue remains, is it fair to say that's not the problem? should I drive around a bit with them disconnected?
- third, if neither address the problem, would I do any harm. adjusting the bilstein 5100 circlip on the driver's side to the next ring up? that would add .6" to the driver's side.
- last could the upper control arm play any role here? my passenger side arm had some play in it recently (after doing the bushings). I thought the problem was a broken endlink. once fixed, the noise remained. so I tightened it up about a 1/4“ more to remove the play from side to side.
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No one has suggested sway bars. No need to touch those. Control arm bushings are the ones you might have to reset.
As ser1 just confirmed, looks like 890s are side specific. 50/50 chance yours went in the wrong way?? Maybe? I’d look here first.
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Yes, 890's are side specific, "A" and "B" on little white tags on the springs, but if those are gone, the drivers side spring is slightly taller than the passenger side spring.
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