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Old 06-07-2020, 10:57 AM #16
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So I'm finally done with this project

Thanks to this forum and Youtube I managed to get it done without major problems.
I did end up breaking a wheel stud so I now know how to replace those to.

Probably the worst part was removing the upper nuts on the shocks, and then I broke a wheel stud replacing the tires. At least now I've done it and gained more experience.

At the end of the day Bertha gained 2.5 inches at the back and the ride feels much better.

Now on to the front suspension...YAY...

Thanks Theo
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People install 1-2” lifts, coils or spacers, all the time with stock length shocks.
It’s as ok as lifting a rig ever is.
How does this statement take into consideration the low height of the 2001-2002 4Runners? For example, if I put on a 1999 coil + 1.5" spacer on my 2002 truck I would arrive at +/- 2.5" lift over where my 2002 started, but only 1.5" over where the 99 started. Would the stock length shock be OK in this situation? Is the general statement of 0"-2" of lift OK with stock shocks apply to the tall 1999 springs or not?

Reason I bring this up is that I was looking at lengths on RockAuto today and noticed that the KYB KG54317 is listed as a collapsed length of 12.95" and an extended of 20.12". The Bilstein 24-249966 (Their 2" lifted rear) is listed as a collapsed length of 12.91" and an extended of 20.79".

If the Bilstein really only offers an additional .7" of droop over the KYB KG54317, then the KYB is a nice option for those only looking to adding 1"-1.5" of lift, such as adding a '99 tall spring to a 2000-2002 4Runner. Or even adding a 10-20mm trim packer and '99 tall spring to a 2000-2002 4Runner. The Bilsteins are considerably more expensive than the KYB.
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How does this statement take into consideration the low height of the 2001-2002 4Runners?
All "lift" numbers are based on ~20" wheel hub center to fender lip measurement. No matter the year of 3rd gen 4Runner, the rest of the suspension geometry doesn't change - mainly the bump stops (well, ignoring some early rear suspension stuff). Droop is limited by shocks, both front and rear.

Shocks designed for lift or stock height has more to do with the internal design - the damping characteristics can and do change depending on the position in the travel of the shock in many cases.

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On my 1999, I am running 99 Talls with a 1.5 Daystar Spacer. I am running Rear Shocks meant for a 1994 Land Cruiser 80 Series. It works just fine for my needs. I have a set of Airlift bags installed as well to help with any loading issues. The 99 springs are very soft and sag a lot with my dirtbike/carrier on the back, but ride great when unloaded. About 40lbs in the Airbags levels it right out and I don't even notice all the weight hanging off the back. They came in handy when I dismantled my 680 pound motorcycle and put it in the back for a cross country move from VA to Texas.

I was running Tundra front Springs and 7 Wrap's on the rear, and it was way too tall and harsh for regular driving. I had the adjustable panhard bar, and that did center the axle, but it did not help the row boat feeling when turning and going over uneven surfaces.
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On my 1999, I am running 99 Talls with a 1.5 Daystar Spacer. I am running Rear Shocks meant for a 1994 Land Cruiser 80 Series. It works just fine for my needs. I have a set of Airlift bags installed as well to help with any loading issues. The 99 springs are very soft and sag a lot with my dirtbike/carrier on the back, but ride great when unloaded. About 40lbs in the Airbags levels it right out and I don't even notice all the weight hanging off the back. They came in handy when I dismantled my 680 pound motorcycle and put it in the back for a cross country move from VA to Texas.

I was running Tundra front Springs and 7 Wrap's on the rear, and it was way too tall and harsh for regular driving. I had the adjustable panhard bar, and that did center the axle, but it did not help the row boat feeling when turning and going over uneven surfaces.
I was considering going with that exact setup! Do you get your truck fully crossed up and fully stuff a rear tire? The Land cruiser shocks have a 22.87" extended length and I was concerned that they would allow a rear spring to pop out of the perch.
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I have not had it any serious off road action, just beach roads and a few dirt roads at the dirt bike trails. You will probably be fine. The 99 talls + 1.5 spacer is about 2 inches taller than most stock setups.
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