06-09-2020, 12:46 PM
|
#16
|
Elite Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Pasadena, CA
Posts: 5,380
|
|
Elite Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Pasadena, CA
Posts: 5,380
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by cashflow50
I’m kind of thinking it was replaced once cause it’s at 205k and still going strong. I didn’t buy the kit but buying them one at a time due to limited funds. I have the belt (oem) and water pump (aisin) so far. Need the cam and crank seals, bearings, tensioner and crank bolt. Ok I have the confidence to move forward on this. Let’s go!
|
Don't replace the seals unless they are leaking. Toyota cam/crank seals last a really long time, generally and you can mess up the job and cause a leak that wasn't there in the first place. I like to have them on hand, but generally don't use them.
-Charlie
__________________
'99 4Runner SR5 Auto - 4WD swapped
'89 Camry Alltrac LE 3S-GTE 5spd
'17 Chevy Volt Premier
'16 Honda Odyssey Elite
Previous: '88 Camry Alltrac LE 3S-GE BEAMS, 90 Camry 3S-GTE, 90 Camry DX, '03 WRX wagon, '08 Outback XT
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
06-09-2020, 12:56 PM
|
#17
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: denver
Posts: 3,010
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: denver
Posts: 3,010
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by cashflow50
Question: just watched Timmys video one more time and came to the part where he stripped the bolt for the tensioner idler pulley. What’s the chances that happens? Have any of you had that issue?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
|
Torque wrenches if not caliberated can be off. If you have a cheap torque wrench and the bolt is tight enough stop wrenching on it or you end up stripping or worse breaking the bolt specially the smaller bolts in the block. I think the tensioner pulley torque is like 20 ftlbs which is not that high. You'll be surprised to learn that shop mechanics don't use torque wrenches that often.
Last edited by spartacus; 06-09-2020 at 01:00 PM.
Reason: spelling
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
06-09-2020, 02:38 PM
|
#18
|
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Sun Valley, Idaho
Posts: 148
|
|
Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Sun Valley, Idaho
Posts: 148
|
I've did it myself about a month or two ago. Only ran into one issue which was a result of the crank pulley breaking a tooth. It was my first time attempt a big job like that and it wasn't that bad. Some good tips from Tim in the videos. Check the crank pulley teeth when you get the belt on and be careful taking it off. I listened to the advice of a few people and didn't change the cam seals since they weren't leaking.
Otherwise; good luck, be thorough, and enjoy that victory beer once complete.
__________________
"Bettie" - 1998 4runner LTD E-Locker Evergreen Pearl 275K+, Alpine HU, Infinity Reference Speakers, Airraid MIT, B&M Cooler, Light Racing UCA, RCI skids, Bilstein Tundra 5100 and 4runner Eibach Coils in front/ Bilstein FJ 5100 and OME 890 rear, LC80 wheels wrapped with MT Baja ATZ 285/75/16, 99+ overhead console, 99+ center console, sound-deadening, Ditch lights
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
06-09-2020, 06:43 PM
|
#19
|
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Da Rock
Posts: 107
|
|
Member
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Da Rock
Posts: 107
|
Timing belt?
Got another question, as for the camshaft gears going off tdc right after belt removal Is it ok to rotate the sprockets counter clock to make the mark or gotta go clock wise to get the marks to line up again? This is when the T belts already off. I understand for the crank it should go clockwise only with belt of without belt.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Last edited by cashflow50; 06-09-2020 at 08:45 PM.
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
06-09-2020, 06:58 PM
|
#20
|
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Da Rock
Posts: 107
|
|
Member
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Da Rock
Posts: 107
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ser1clymb
I've did it myself about a month or two ago. Only ran into one issue which was a result of the crank pulley breaking a tooth. It was my first time attempt a big job like that and it wasn't that bad. Some good tips from Tim in the videos. Check the crank pulley teeth when you get the belt on and be careful taking it off. I listened to the advice of a few people and didn't change the cam seals since they weren't leaking.
Otherwise; good luck, be thorough, and enjoy that victory beer once complete.
|
Yes beer sounds good after a victory!!!!! Thanks brother for the input
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
06-09-2020, 06:58 PM
|
#21
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Northern Utah
Posts: 189
|
|
Member
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Northern Utah
Posts: 189
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by cashflow50
Got another question, as for the timing gears going off tdc right after belt removal Is it ok to rotate the sprockets counter clock to make the mark or gotta go clock wise to get the marks to line up again? This is when the T belts already off.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
|
I think you're supposed to always go clockwise since that's the way it naturally goes.
Here's a few other links showing you how to do it as other references besides Timmy's video.
AdventureTaco - turbodb's build and adventures | Page 52 | Tacoma World This one has pictures.
Step by Step Toyota Tacoma Timing Belt Replacement for 3.4L V6 5VZFE (also 4runner, Tundra, and T100) – ADVENTURE TACO This one is a step by step guide.
__________________
1999 Limited with rear locker.
Sherpa Matterhorn | Sonoran Steel Diff Drop | SPC UCAs | DuroBumps Front and Rear | OME 890 Springs and Black Tokico Shocks | Eimkeith Reinforcements and PCK | King Coilovers | OCD Sway Bar Links | Opt Offroad Rear Arms | Lil Skips Gas Tank Skid Plate | FGP Rock Sliders | 4x Innovations Rear Plate Bumper with tire carrier
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
06-09-2020, 07:43 PM
|
#22
|
|
Elite Member
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: San Jose, California
Age: 58
Posts: 5,264
Real Name: Tim
|
|
Elite Member
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: San Jose, California
Age: 58
Posts: 5,264
Real Name: Tim
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by 3bears
well its been 2 years for me, and I did not have any issues...funny about tim stripping the bolt, might have to watch just to see him do it as I dont remeber that...seen everyone of his videos and use them for reference often
|
It's not that I stripped the bolt, it's the fact threads gave way when i removed the lower idler pulley bolt. When I reviewed the video footage, I could see threads hanging in the hole before I even attempted to get the bolt back in and tightened to spec. I definitely didn't cross thread it. I think it's just an occurrence that can happen when you have a steel bolt tightened into an aluminum housing. After making the video, other guys contacted me and told me the same thing happened to them. I think it's just luck of the draw if it happens but I have a feeling it's fairly rare luckily. I had to drill it out and install a helicoil to make it work. Toyota does use some type of thread-locker on the threads of that bolt. When I do this job again, I think I'm going to heat up the bolt a little to hopefully facilitate breaking the bond of the loctite with the aluminum housing.
__________________
"My old man is a television repairman, he's got this ultimate set of tools. I can fix it!"
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
06-09-2020, 07:48 PM
|
#23
|
|
Elite Member
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: San Jose, California
Age: 58
Posts: 5,264
Real Name: Tim
|
|
Elite Member
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: San Jose, California
Age: 58
Posts: 5,264
Real Name: Tim
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by toverturf
|
Yeah, I post our videos on Tacoma World too in the 1st Gen section. These guys used our video as a reference to make a write-up of the job which is nice for those that prefer write-ups.
__________________
"My old man is a television repairman, he's got this ultimate set of tools. I can fix it!"
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
06-09-2020, 09:46 PM
|
#24
|
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Da Rock
Posts: 107
|
|
Member
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Da Rock
Posts: 107
|
Thanks Tim for your videos and everything you do. They are awesome and a great reference for weekend warriors like me.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
06-09-2020, 11:02 PM
|
#25
|
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Baltimore
Posts: 597
|
|
Member
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Baltimore
Posts: 597
|
I did this service by myself last August, it's completely doable, BUT.. if you run into any snags it's helpful to have another set of wheels. The bolts that hold the hydro tensioner had rounded off heads, which meant I had to drop the AC compressor and drop the bracket to get to them. That opened a can of worms because the belt tensioner assembly was rotted together, so that added 4 days to get the parts from Toyota to get those parts, and then one of the compressor bracket bolts broke off ( rusted almost in half) which added more time to dig that out of the block.
__________________
'99 Limited, 225K miles, 3.4/automatic, multi-mode, e-locker, broken sunroof, no DRL's. 265-75-16 Hankook Dynapro ATM. New Moog rear springs, KYB Monomax F&R.
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
06-10-2020, 12:42 AM
|
#26
|
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Da Rock
Posts: 107
|
|
Member
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Da Rock
Posts: 107
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2ndhandyotaman
I did this service by myself last August, it's completely doable, BUT.. if you run into any snags it's helpful to have another set of wheels. The bolts that hold the hydro tensioner had rounded off heads, which meant I had to drop the AC compressor and drop the bracket to get to them. That opened a can of worms because the belt tensioner assembly was rotted together, so that added 4 days to get the parts from Toyota to get those parts, and then one of the compressor bracket bolts broke off ( rusted almost in half) which added more time to dig that out of the block.
|
With that said you think it’s a good idea to PB blast or liquid wrench the nuts and bolts before wrenching, especially the crank bolt?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
06-10-2020, 11:04 AM
|
#27
|
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Birmingham, Alabama
Age: 36
Posts: 111
Real Name: Blaine
|
|
Member
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Birmingham, Alabama
Age: 36
Posts: 111
Real Name: Blaine
|
You got this. Just did my second TB / WP job on a 3rd gen a little over a month ago.
When you get the water pump off, make sure you get the surface completely cleaned up. Pay attention to the points or the corners.
On my most recent TB job, I missed a spot on one of the corners and the water pump began leaking. I had to take the timing belt off from the top to get to the water pump to clean it up again. Was a huge pita.
__________________
1997 Toyota 4Runner SR5 4WD
Birmingham, Alabama - Central Alabama 4Runners
Go Avs Go | Roll Tide
BlainePrickett.com
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
06-10-2020, 11:16 AM
|
#28
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Hot Springs, AR
Posts: 4,410
Real Name: Patrick
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Hot Springs, AR
Posts: 4,410
Real Name: Patrick
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by cashflow50
Got another question, as for the camshaft gears going off tdc right after belt removal Is it ok to rotate the sprockets counter clock to make the mark or gotta go clock wise to get the marks to line up again? This is when the T belts already off. I understand for the crank it should go clockwise only with belt of without belt.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
|
It's a non-interference motor so you aren't going to hurt anything by rotating the cams either direction to line things up again.
__________________
2000 SR5 V6 Manual 4WD https://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-g...biography.html
2000 Limited V6 Auto E-Locker Sold 3/2022
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
06-10-2020, 11:29 AM
|
#29
|
Junior Member
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Saint Charles MO
Posts: 19
|
|
Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Saint Charles MO
Posts: 19
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by cashflow50
Did anyone of my forum TR4 peers did a timing belt alone? My buddies seem to be always busy. Is it doable? There are no stickers or indication that the previous owner did the belt job done. I’ve asked him numerous times and he has no clue. Omg
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
|
Very doable alone. There are plenty of youtube walk throughs. Take your time and double check intervening. If you can read and follow instructions you will be fine.
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
06-10-2020, 01:06 PM
|
#30
|
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Da Rock
Posts: 107
|
|
Member
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Da Rock
Posts: 107
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bad Luck
It's a non-interference motor so you aren't going to hurt anything by rotating the cams either direction to line things up again.
|
Raja thanks for the reply on this. Gotta make sure before I start doing stuff that might mess sh*t up hehehe. This is good to know material.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
Thread Tools |
|
Display Modes |
Rate This Thread |
Linear Mode
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is On
|
|
|
|