To much sag with dirtbike carrier? - Page 3 - Toyota 4Runner Forum

shadow247 · 06-23-2020, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Boognish_Forever

I did not remove the springs, I squeezed them in there. I think you might be right. Should I deflate the passenger side and readjust it? Here’s some pictures of the driver and passenger side. The passenger side is not level.

Btw that’s fluid film on the welds of the rear end, not on the springs or perch. I sanded and painted the perch and the rusted spots on the springs.

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The airbag should not affect ride height that much. 3rd Gens naturally sit lower on the driver side, many people use a Trim Packer on the driver side when lifting to get it level from side to side. My 99 has a little lean to the drivers side. I would double check the upper rubber piece is seated correctly on the Passenger side. The only thing I can see is that the upper bumpstop could be shifted in the bucket and causing the right side to be higher.

Boognish_Forever · 06-23-2020, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mabuz

Interested in seeing what the cause is. I have a 5th Gen and am thinking about trying these out for towing my utility trailer to help with some rear-end sag.

So far they are working out well. I just got back from a 5 day trip with my bike on the back and rode some pretty rough terrain at times. I’d say the total amount of weight including my bike and gear was about 650lbs in the rear. My bike weights 300 to 325 and the carrier weights 65lbs.

But be aware with the Firestone Airbags. Two days after I installed them, the driver side lost air. After spraying everything with soapy water it ended up being the tiny needle valve (I tried tightening it and it still leaked) leaking inside the schrader. I was surprised being a new valve it leaked, but also was relieved being an easy fix. I ended stealing one out of my bicycle and it’s held air since.

dawudih · 11-16-2022, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by shadow247

Here is my setup.

99 Tall Springs with 1.5 Daystar Spacer and Airlift 1000 bags in the rear aired up to 50psi. You wouldn't even know the bike was hanging off the back even on rough bumpy roads.

So do the air bags in the rear just lift the rear end or do they also push the front down? I get flashed constantly at night with a bike on the rear.

Bad Luck · 11-16-2022, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dawudih

So do the air bags in the rear just lift the rear end or do they also push the front down? I get flashed constantly at night with a bike on the rear.

Any change in rear height will change your headlight aiming. If you raise the rear then your headlights will point lower. If you lower the front then your headlights will point lower. The opposite is true as well which is why lowering the rear due to extra weight causes your headlights to point higher into oncoming drivers.

19963.4lsr5 · 11-16-2022, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Boognish_Forever

Ha! Maybe a 250 two stroke for the tight trails. I won’t be selling this bike anytime soon. Yup, it’s a 2000 XR650R fully street legal. I use to own a 650L for a while as well and was a great bike, but I wanted something faster and lighter. I searched for years trying to find a R that was in good shape and street legal in Oregon. The only thing I don’t like is kick starting this pig when I dump it on a hill climb.

My 95 CR500 with a Baja Designs street legal kit would be the shit. I’d probably loose my license.

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dawudih · 11-17-2022, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bad Luck

Any change in rear height will change your headlight aiming. If you raise the rear then your headlights will point lower. If you lower the front then your headlights will point lower. The opposite is true as well which is why lowering the rear due to extra weight causes your headlights to point higher into oncoming drivers.

I guess my question is does raising the rear end from sagging with airbags just raise the rear and not affect the nose, or does it push the front down at the same time?

phattyduck · 11-18-2022, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dawudih

I guess my question is does raising the rear end from sagging with airbags just raise the rear and not affect the nose, or does it push the front down at the same time?

With weight cantelivered out the back, the front will stay higher. Headlight aim will still be improved if you lift the rear back up. Overall handling will still be affected, though less so than without something to help carry the weight.

The only way to push the front back down is with a trailer and a weight distribution hitch...

-Charlie

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