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Light Bulbs and Bumper

My dad and I were out on a trail the other day while it was raining, and while he drove my 4Runner I noticed that my center brake light and passenger license plate light are both out. I wondered if anyone knows the part number for the license plate bulb...






The center brake light bulb and socket were charred and melted. I'm wondering if anyone knows of a good LED replacement bulb and/or a part number for the socket that is pictured below.







Lastly, does anyone know which CBI bumper this is?





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My dad and I were out on a trail the other day while it was raining, and while he drove my 4Runner I noticed that my center brake light and passenger license plate light are both out. I wondered if anyone knows the part number for the license plate bulb...

2825 - Amazon.com: SYLVANIA - 2825 Long Life Miniature - Bulb, Ideal for Interior Lighting - Map, Dome and License Plate (Contains 2 Bulbs): Automotive

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The center brake light bulb and socket were charred and melted. I'm wondering if anyone knows of a good LED replacement bulb and/or a part number for the socket that is pictured below.


That looks to be a KOITO E4-2. I don't see it available alone, looks like you may have to buy the whole center light assembly - 81570-35040 High Mount Lamp - Toyota (81570-35040) | Toyota Parts

Some discussion here - broken 3rd brake light ?
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Pricey, but so far the only 921 LED I recommend for a 3rd brake light Best, Brightest LED Brake Light Bulb
I use them on my 4Runner and 1st-gen Tundra, more intense than the original incandescent even during the middle of the day.
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The bumper is the CBI hybrid since it has the tube welded in closest to the fill panel for the lift gate. Their plate bumper has sheet metal on that portion.

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did you notice if you had any dash lights on...I think if the 3d brake light bulb is out,,,it makes the abs light come on ....at least on my 2000.
I think it was the abs light...i remember years back having a dash light come on...and found out it was triggered by the 3rd brake light bulb being burned out.
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2825 - Amazon.com: SYLVANIA - 2825 Long Life Miniature - Bulb, Ideal for Interior Lighting - Map, Dome and License Plate (Contains 2 Bulbs): Automotive

That looks to be a KOITO E4-2. I don't see it available alone, looks like you may have to buy the whole center light assembly - 81570-35040 High Mount Lamp - Toyota (81570-35040) | Toyota Parts

Some discussion here - broken 3rd brake light ?
Thanks for those links, ordered the license plate lights.

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Pricey, but so far the only 921 LED I recommend for a 3rd brake light Best, Brightest LED Brake Light Bulb
I use them on my 4Runner and 1st-gen Tundra, more intense than the original incandescent even during the middle of the day.
Looks like a good light, I'll probably end up getting that one. I also need the socket that the light plugs into, as it's melted. Toyota said they will only sell the entire assembly, does anyone know of somewhere to get just that gray socket?

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The bumper is the CBI hybrid since it has the tube welded in closest to the fill panel for the lift gate. Their plate bumper has sheet metal on that portion.

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Thanks, I did some research and realized that last night. I'm really disappointed that the PO cut off the tow hitch portion. It adds a tiny bit of extra clearance but would've been really nice to be able to tow...

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did you notice if you had any dash lights on...I think if the 3d brake light bulb is out,,,it makes the abs light come on ....at least on my 2000.
I think it was the abs light...i remember years back having a dash light come on...and found out it was triggered by the 3rd brake light bulb being burned out.
There were no lights on the dash but my T4R has the andy mod so the ABS system is modified, so I wouldn't be surprised if that stopped the indicator from showing.
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I also need the socket that the light plugs into, as it's melted. Toyota said they will only sell the entire assembly, does anyone know of somewhere to get just that gray socket?
Yeah, as I said above, I don't think you can buy just the socket, it's considered part of the assembly. A bit steep at ~$80. Probably have to go to a junkyard, or find a used one at Ebay, like this one - 96-02 Toyota 4Runner High Mounted Third Brake Light Stop Lamp OEM | eBay

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Every single 3rd Gen I've owned (that makes 6 now) has had a burnt 3rd light socket. Some worse than others. If you try the junkyard route, go to one with several 4Runners becasue it will probably be in the same condition.
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Location Bulb Type/Number Quantity
Gauges #24 3
Instrument Lights #74 32
4-Wheel Drive Indicators Neowedge B/T4 2
Center Differential Indicator Neowedge B/T4 1
Key Ring #74 1
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Rear Window Controls Neowedge A/T3 1
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Front Turn Signal 7440 2
Rear Turn Signal 992 2
Stop Lights 7443 2
Back-up Lights 921 2
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Licence Plate #194 2

Do yourself a favor and spend the few minimal extra bucks and buy yourself LED bulbs for the license plate. I've converted pretty much every bulb to LED's on my '01 with the exception of my turn signals (scared of hyperflashing) and I absolutely love how they function and look. Halogen bulbs, IMO, are too dim and outdated. The LEDs will not only modernize your 3rd gen, but make things much more noticeable, too.

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That's a nice list, but the license plate bulbs are not 194, they are W5W, or 2825 (or 168). They are physically interchangeable, but 168 is about twice as bright as the 194.

The LED's are a great upgrade option, here is how mine look:

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By the way along with the VLEDS 921 bulb in the 3rd-brake light I'm also running LED bulbs in my taillights, have no issues with cruise control or ABS. I had a small load resistor ready to install just in case LOL

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That looks to be a KOITO E4-2. I don't see it available alone, looks like you may have to buy the whole center light assembly - 81570-35040 [url=https://toyotaparts.mcgeorgetoyota.com/oem-parts/toyota-high-mount-lamp-8157035040]High Mount Lamp - Toyota (81570-35040)
Well that actually sucks...... are there any aftermarket options for that connector piece?
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Well that actually sucks...... are there any aftermarket options for that connector piece?
Go to a pick n pull and grab the least charred one you can find. They'll probably even give it to you free since it's not worth the transaction fee that they'll have to pay. Worked great for me...
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Go to a pick n pull and grab the least charred one you can find. They'll probably even give it to you free since it's not worth the transaction fee that they'll have to pay. Worked great for me...
I just went to a pick n pull nearby and got 2 connectors in great shape
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