07-17-2020, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by turbodudey2
I'm glad I ran across this thread. I don't have a swingout tire carrier, but I've been looking for a new bike rack.
I just ordered a super duty double yesterday too. I hadn't seen the 1Up racks before (I've been out of the mtb game for quite a while). I got a new bike this summer, and am looking forward to riding more.
I was very surprised to see the tracking info for my rack already. With the backorder status showing on the 1Up website I wasn't expecting to see the rack for another month. Ordered yesterday, shipped today. Very excited to be able to actually haul my bike around soon.
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Dang! You already got a tracking number? When did you get to place your order? I figured I'd wait till midnight to try to get my order in early. I figured I might have to wait, but I wonder how long I'll have to wait. Finger's crossed.
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07-17-2020, 03:59 PM
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Dang! You already got a tracking number? When did you get to place your order? I figured I'd wait till midnight to try to get my order in early. I figured I might have to wait, but I wonder how long I'll have to wait. Finger's crossed.
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Yeah, I was surprised too. The site said everything was on backorder until the 17th (today), and wouldn't let you place an order for anything. I checked yesterday even though it was the 16th, and it had opened up. So I submitted my order yesterday morning.
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07-28-2020, 12:55 PM
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The 1Up rack is pretty awesome...
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07-28-2020, 09:44 PM
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1up makes the best bike racks around, and far more sturdy than any tire or hatch mounted rack.
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07-29-2020, 11:48 AM
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Fair question. There are some drawbacks to the more common spare tire carrier style racks. They depend on contact points and tie-downs to provide stability, so more failure points. But, perhaps the most relevant is that typically those designs require you to hang the bike on the rack by the bike's top tube. Old school bikes still had top tubes that were parallel to the ground.
Modern bike frames are more problematic for those old bike rack designs. Top tubes are at crazy angles, those inner triangles are occupied by suspension parts and pivot points. Also, some people's bikes are more expensive than my 4Runner and made out of carbon and unobtainium. Anywhere where the frame is in contact with a rack will eventually expose bikes to friction and wear at the contact point. So the less contact with the bike frame the better.
I ended up going with the 1Up Super Duty 2" single carrier with single additional add on carrier. I will post pictures with a bit more detail concerning fitment with a 4X Innovations swing out when I can.
The short of it is that I didn't have to order the custom "side plates down" version of the rack. I added a necessary hitch extender and it fits just fine. The bike sits up high, (as is the design), and out of the way. The extender is variable, but in my configuration, it is about a 7" extender.
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07-29-2020, 12:05 PM
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Here's a couple of quick crappy pics.
Now I just want to come up with a security plan for both the rack and the bike mounted on the rack.
The rack is pretty straightforward. Hitch pin locks mostly work for rack security. Their current design no longer features a mont hole set for locks in front of the proprietary lock ball adjuster. So there's that... Then their side slot in the receiver bar, where you'd run a hitch pin lock is so narrow that you will have to run a non standard thinner hitch pin lock instead of a standard diameter lock. Not too excited about rack security.
Bike security will need to be a mix of something like a U lock and a cable lock to cover the bike frame and both wheels. I'm still working this out
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07-29-2020, 07:24 PM
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@ Road Bull
, thank you. I didn't realize that there's more to it than just hanging the bike on the rack, especially with the new and expensive ones. I was just thinking of the ease in opening the tailgate if the rack can be swung with the spare tire.
I watched this video on youtube about the 1UP rack and I'm sold:
Best Jeep Bike Rack - 1UP-USA With Reversed Side Plates - FULL CARGO ACCESS - YouTube
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Originally Posted by Road Bull
Fair question. There are some drawbacks to the more common spare tire carrier style racks. They depend on contact points and tie-downs to provide stability, so more failure points. But, perhaps the most relevant is that typically those designs require you to hang the bike on the rack by the bike's top tube. Old school bikes still had top tubes that were parallel to the ground.
Modern bike frames are more problematic for those old bike rack designs. Top tubes are at crazy angles, those inner triangles are occupied by suspension parts and pivot points. Also, some people's bikes are more expensive than my 4Runner and made out of carbon and unobtainium. Anywhere where the frame is in contact with a rack will eventually expose bikes to friction and wear at the contact point. So the less contact with the bike frame the better.
I ended up going with the 1Up Super Duty 2" single carrier with single additional add on carrier. I will post pictures with a bit more detail concerning fitment with a 4X Innovations swing out when I can.
The short of it is that I didn't have to order the custom "side plates down" version of the rack. I added a necessary hitch extender and it fits just fine. The bike sits up high, (as is the design), and out of the way. The extender is variable, but in my configuration, it is about a 7" extender.
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07-29-2020, 07:49 PM
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Also, 1-Ups can ratchet out to 45 degrees allowing my TR4 hatch to clear it easily when it's as far into the receiver as it can go (with no swing out / tire however). I add this for other prospective buyers. I just dove about 1500 miles with my 1-Up on a rented Ford Expedition Max and it was great.
I also like 1Up mtb components and always get the two 'spellings' mixed up so pls. forgive me that. If you are looking for a great dropper post, I recommend their Ver.2 highly. Support NA companies whenever possible!
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07-29-2020, 11:38 PM
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Yup. That's the same video that I watched. I used that to try to decide if I wanted to order it with the reversed side plates in the downward configuration. But I knew that with my swing out I wouldn't be able to open the back with bikes mounted anyway. I decided to wing it as I wanted the bikes mounted higher rather than lower. This rack is NICE. I will test it out this weekend.
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Also, 1-Ups can ratchet out to 45 degrees allowing my TR4 hatch to clear it easily when it's as far into the receiver as it can go (with no swing out / tire however). I add this for other prospective buyers. I just dove about 1500 miles with my 1-Up on a rented Ford Expedition Max and it was great.
I also like 1Up mtb components and always get the two 'spellings' mixed up so pls. forgive me that. If you are looking for a great dropper post, I recommend their Ver.2 highly. Support NA companies whenever possible!
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I could be wrong, but I thought that they were different companies. 1 Up does the bike carriers, and One Up makes bike components. At any rate, I upgraded my dropper to the V2 180 mm. It's pretty sweet! Mind you, I am just getting used to all the (new to me) bike tech. My last new mountain bike was purchased back in college in 1995. So... let's just say things have come a long way. I am going from a hardtail 26" bike to a FS bike with crazy brakes and new slacked out geometry. At least the bike makes it fun to get back into shape.
And life would have been a lot easier if I didn't have a swing out. Then I could actually store it. I think if I set the receiver extension out a bit more I might be able to fold it to the stowed position. Maybe somewhere down the road I will pick up a vehicle that I wont mod to death. Maybe a Taco or a 470...
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07-30-2020, 06:02 PM
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I could be wrong, but I thought that they were different companies. 1 Up does the bike carriers, and One Up makes bike components.
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Most def 2 different companies!
MTB OneUp is Canadian: OneUp Components - The mountain bike specialists
I was adding to the confusion, I'm afraid, and I was using the MTB stuff before i got the rack from the similarly-named US outfit. Both are excellent IMO.
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Most def 2 different companies!
MTB OneUp is Canadian: OneUp Components - The mountain bike specialists
I was adding to the confusion, I'm afraid, and I was using the MTB stuff before i got the rack from the similarly-named US outfit. Both are excellent IMO.
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Agreed that they are both great companies and make some pretty awesome products. And I did the exact same thing as far as the names go. Who knew that there were so many companies, with the same name, in the same industry. LOL.
How do you lock your rack up? And how about locking up your bike on the rack?
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07-30-2020, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Road Bull
Agreed that they are both great companies and make some pretty awesome products. And I did the exact same thing as far as the names go. Who knew that there were so many companies, with the same name, in the same industry. LOL.
How do you lock your rack up? And how about locking up your bike on the rack?
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I ordered the hitch lock and multiple wheel looks when I ordered from 1up. If I was doing my road trip to the west coast like I should have been doing this week, I was going to get heavy duty chain and run it through the triangles of my bikes then locking them to the hitch with a beefy lock. For just tooling around town I use the wheel locks, and the hitch lock is always on. Those are just deterrents at best, I make it a point to back in to spots so I can see my bike if I stop for a beer.
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How do you lock your rack up? And how about locking up your bike on the rack?
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The rack should have come with the hitch lock. Although it's not a super beefy lock, combined with the security wrench I feel like the rack is pretty secure on the hitch.
I did get some wheel locks at the same time too, so they would all be keyed the same. I have stealth maxles, so it would make it a tiny bit harder for some rando to take the wheels off (no quick release). I was thinking for overnight parking in a high risk area some sort of additional cable/chain lock for the frame would definitely be a good idea.
The OneUp components are good stuff. I really like the "switch" chainrings. Very clever idea. Makes it so much easier to change out the Shimano direct mount ring.
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How do you lock your rack up? And how about locking up your bike on the rack?
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I have a length of heavy chain that I run through the bike frame, the rack and an ear of the receiver. I also use a 1-up hitch lock. I have managed to lose both of the 1-up bike wheel locks I had, however. Basically, I don't leave my bikes anywhere a real thief could spend a minute with a cordless angle-grinder unseen. "Locks keep the honest people out" I have 2 carbon race MTBs - 1 Enduro and one DH and I can't afford to replace either!
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