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Old 07-22-2020, 03:29 PM #16
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I like to turn the adjust out until I can *just* get the drum back on. Then crank it forward with a screwdriver from the access hole a few more clicks. You want the drum to drag just a little.

When its adjusted right you should be able to get good tension on the handle after 7-9 clicks like Tim said. Oughtta be able to lock the tires right up with a hard pull.
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followed the video to a t. tightened adjuster. drums just barely fit on and then tightened fr behind backing plate. but when I pulled on the ebrake, no clicking. it still comes up pretty high. still think the cable doesn't have to be tightened at center console?
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followed the video to a t. tightened adjuster. drums just barely fit on and then tightened fr behind backing plate. but when I pulled on the ebrake, no clicking. it still comes up pretty high. still think the cable doesn't have to be tightened at center console?
I don't get it, if you're able to pull the handle up pretty high, you should be hearing some clicking.
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I don't get it, if you're able to pull the handle up pretty high, you should be hearing some clicking.
hmm, theoretically, if the cable had too much slack wouldn't that explain it? the ebrake reaches its max distance before it can supply enough tension to make the adjusters "click"?

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There is a procedure to adjust the ebrake in the FSM. It’s important to follow it.

While your drums are off grind off the lip.


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hmm, theoretically, if the cable had too much slack wouldn't that explain it? the ebrake reaches its max distance before it can supply enough tension to make the adjusters "click"?

just thinking out loud.
The handle itself does the clicking. It doesn't matter if the cable is connected or not the handle should still click when you pull it up. Another thing to check for but wouldn't have anything to do with your not clicking problem is making sure the bell cranks are operating properly.
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There was a thread that pointed out a few differences in the rear brakes between 96-00 & 01-02 that would make adjusting the rear brakes in 01-02 with the parking brake lever not possible. I haven't looked in detail how my rear brakes in my 02 operate but I'm pretty sure when I've tried, it didn't seem to adjust anything. Not a big deal since I use the adjusting wheel but can anyone confirm this?
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The handle itself does the clicking. It doesn't matter if the cable is connected or not the handle should still click when you pull it up. Another thing to check for but wouldn't have anything to do with your not clicking problem is making sure the bell cranks are operating properly.
I could have sworn in timmy's video, they were pulling the ebrake with the button depressed so they could demonstrate the rear wheel adjusters 'clicking'. (and not hear the brake handle click.
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You are suppose to remove the bellcrank springs and pull it until it stops. Then adjust the bolt head for an air gap of around 1/32 to 1/16”. (I forget the exact measurement) then reinstall the springs.

Then adjust the cable at the handle if you don’t have the proper klicks.

Have slight drag adjusted on the brake shoes first.


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I could have sworn in timmy's video, they were pulling the ebrake with the button depressed so they could demonstrate the rear wheel adjusters 'clicking'. (and not hear the brake handle click.
This is correct, I haven't watched the video but it is valid.

You mentioned that you adjusted the brakes after you put the drums on. Maybe you have them tight enough. The self adjuster star wheel mechanism will only work of the shoes are a little loose. If you have them tight enough (or too tight) you won't hear anything from the back. Once things are adjusted up properly the clicking stops.
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You are suppose to remove the bellcrank springs and pull it until it stops. Then adjust the bolt head for an air gap of around 1/32 to 1/16”. (I forget the exact measurement) then reinstall the springs.

Then adjust the cable at the handle if you don’t have the proper klicks.

Have slight drag adjusted on the brake shoes first.


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bell crank bolt clearance - check. think tim said .4-.8mm
cable handle - need to do. that's what I was wondering

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I could have sworn in timmy's video, they were pulling the ebrake with the button depressed so they could demonstrate the rear wheel adjusters 'clicking'. (and not hear the brake handle click.
The 7-9 clicks is for the parking brake handle. If your rear brakes are properly adjusted then it won't click at the adjusters when you pull the parking brake handle.
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There was a thread that pointed out a few differences in the rear brakes between 96-00 & 01-02 that would make adjusting the rear brakes in 01-02 with the parking brake lever not possible. I haven't looked in detail how my rear brakes in my 02 operate but I'm pretty sure when I've tried, it didn't seem to adjust anything. Not a big deal since I use the adjusting wheel but can anyone confirm this?
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i also found the parking brake did not auto adjust the star wheel and i had to do it manually. warning : the manual adjuster works the opposite of what appears in tim's video.
after 15 years i bought the parts to convert to the 96-00 version. works like a champ now!
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The 7-9 clicks is for the parking brake handle. If your rear brakes are properly adjusted then it won't click at the adjusters when you pull the parking brake handle.
yes, I realize that. thx
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There was a thread that pointed out a few differences in the rear brakes between 96-00 & 01-02 that would make adjusting the rear brakes in 01-02 with the parking brake lever not possible. I haven't looked in detail how my rear brakes in my 02 operate but I'm pretty sure when I've tried, it didn't seem to adjust anything. Not a big deal since I use the adjusting wheel but can anyone confirm this?
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Replaced my brake shoes when replaced rear axle seals/bearings, etc a couple weeks ago.
I adjusted the brake shoes manually by turning the star adjuster and it tightened up my emergency brakes perfectly. The e-brake lever used to have little resistance when pulling up and did little to hold the vehicle on any kind of an incline.
I also bled my brake system using a Motive power bleeder working from furthest away to closest.
My brakes actually work really well now and the pedal feels just like you would expect it to.
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