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Old 09-02-2020, 10:38 PM #16
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Hopefully, you don't find out like I did when replacing the rack that the higher pressure hose assembly is shot b/c it's a $400 part from Toyota
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Decent quality aftermarket hose assemblies are available. I recently got a high pressure line from the manufacturer Gates and it was very good quality...and about $100. The low pressure line is basically a brake line with some rubber hose on the ends. You can get those for like $30 anywhere.
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Decent quality aftermarket hose assemblies are available. I recently got a high pressure line from the manufacturer Gates and it was very good quality...and about $100. The low pressure line is basically a brake line with some rubber hose on the ends. You can get those for like $30 anywhere.
If I had been doing it myself I probably would have looked for some other options, though, to be fair, the first set lasted for 21 years and 316K+ miles. Unfortunately, I had a shop doing it so it cost me $464 for the part and $207 in additional labor, bringing the total for replacing my leaking steering rack to just under $2k
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So it is possible that the LCA bushings are the potential cause of the 4runner pulling right?
Putting new bushings on everything is probably a good idea even if I need to replace the steering rack later on.

Thanks for taking the time to make those videos. It's really helpful!

[QUOTE=mtbtim;3539887]If your rack isn't leaking, I wouldn't jump right into replacing the steering rack because it's quite pricey. An OEM rack that comes with inner new inner tie rods will run you around $500.

Get under the rig and have someone you trust not to run you over get in the driver seat, start the rig and turn the wheels back and forth while you're staring at the steering rack. If you see gross movement left to right, you're bushings are toast and it's time to replace them. But, I'm not not sold on the fact worn steering rack bushings are causing your pulling issue. I would also suspect worn lower control arm bushings like somebody mentioned.

I would advise you to not follow the suggestion of buying aftermarket control arms. People have shared horror stories of failures with these cheaper control arms. Even the OEM LCAs can fail from lots of abuse from hard 4wheeling so inferior LCAs is a bad idea. Same goes for aftermarket steering racks. Quite often, the aftermarket steering racks fail quickly forcing you to either pay for the labor to replace it again or you yourself has to get under the rig to replace it. A Lifetime Warranty might end up being a Lifetime of Misery for you having to repeat the same job over and over again. Buy OEM for important components like this because in the long run it's the smart choice.
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Yes, it's possible worn LCA bushings are causing the pulling.

[QUOTE=CT135;3540319]So it is possible that the LCA bushings are the potential cause of the 4runner pulling right?
Putting new bushings on everything is probably a good idea even if I need to replace the steering rack later on.

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If your rack isn't leaking, I wouldn't jump right into replacing the steering rack because it's quite pricey. An OEM rack that comes with inner new inner tie rods will run you around $500.

Get under the rig and have someone you trust not to run you over get in the driver seat, start the rig and turn the wheels back and forth while you're staring at the steering rack. If you see gross movement left to right, you're bushings are toast and it's time to replace them. But, I'm not not sold on the fact worn steering rack bushings are causing your pulling issue. I would also suspect worn lower control arm bushings like somebody mentioned.

I would advise you to not follow the suggestion of buying aftermarket control arms. People have shared horror stories of failures with these cheaper control arms. Even the OEM LCAs can fail from lots of abuse from hard 4wheeling so inferior LCAs is a bad idea. Same goes for aftermarket steering racks. Quite often, the aftermarket steering racks fail quickly forcing you to either pay for the labor to replace it again or you yourself has to get under the rig to replace it. A Lifetime Warranty might end up being a Lifetime of Misery for you having to repeat the same job over and over again. Buy OEM for important components like this because in the long run it's the smart choice.
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Draging brake would cause it to pull to the side too. Make sure your passenger front and rear brakes are able to spin relatively free.
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Ya I'm having the same issue where it drifts to the right. I changed my steering rack bushings, and it did get tighter, but it still drifts. I think the issue is that I never did a panhard drop and I have almost 5 inches of lift in the rear, so my rear axle is shifted to the right a little more than 1/4 inch. This could cause my pulling right?
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Ya I'm having the same issue where it drifts to the right. I changed my steering rack bushings, and it did get tighter, but it still drifts. I think the issue is that I never did a panhard drop and I have almost 5 inches of lift in the rear, so my rear axle is shifted to the right a little more than 1/4 inch. This could cause my pulling right?

That needs adjust so it doesnít ďBull DogĒ and if that isnít it it could be worn lower front bushings. My rig drives like a new car after replacing mine.


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That needs adjust so it doesnít ďBull DogĒ and if that isnít it it could be worn lower front bushings. My rig drives like a new car after replacing mine.


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What do you mean by "bull dog"? Im going to make my own panhard drop this weekend and ill report back. If it doesnt fix it ill move on to the bushings haha.
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I've got the panhard correction kit on my 4runner and it's drifting right. I think I'll just have to suck it up and replace the rack and LCA bushings.

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Ya I'm having the same issue where it drifts to the right. I changed my steering rack bushings, and it did get tighter, but it still drifts. I think the issue is that I never did a panhard drop and I have almost 5 inches of lift in the rear, so my rear axle is shifted to the right a little more than 1/4 inch. This could cause my pulling right?
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Need new bushings or steering rack?

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What do you mean by "bull dog"? Im going to make my own panhard drop this weekend and ill report back. If it doesnt fix it ill move on to the bushings haha.

You ever see a bulldog walking down the sidewalk with its arse too the side. Where itís butt doesnít track itís front legs?

In my area of south central PA we call a 4x4 that, where itís rear axle is not in line with its front axle, bulldogging. it happens in the bulldog breed where they walk sideways.


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Itís been a while but I wanted to update this for anyone searching with a similar issue... thank you for the suggestions about the lca bushings being the cause of my 4runner pulling to the right. I replaced the lca bushings (white line) and the steering rack bushings (energy suspension) and it drives perfect now. No new rack needed and less than $100 in parts.
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