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Old 10-28-2020, 02:20 PM #46
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If every one did what the op did their would be a lot less odometer fraud. Way to go @ASUMTNEER .
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If every one did what the op did their would be a lot less odometer fraud. Way to go @ASUMTNEER .
I honestly never expected to see a dime from this, but was hoping it would keep someone from trying this again.
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That being said, the issue is crooks who will roll back the odometer in order the sell the vehicle for more money since *most* people place a high value on having lower miles on a used vehicle.

Even with great maintenance a high mileage vehicle is still just that.
Not really though.

Unless you're talking about a pristine model with under 50k miles, the price really isn't all that reflective of mileage.

Again, would you buy a 150k mile rig for $5k if it has a hole through the block because the PO didn't ever change the oil? Or would you rather buy a 250k mile vehicle that has major and minor maintenance performed, no signs of rust, one owner, etc.


I'll also tell you... about 10 years ago my parents were given my grandma's 1995 Camry, which had 30k original miles on a 5sfe. Should have been the most reliable vehicle one could imagine... but there was quite a bit of dry rot on the rubber components and had quite a bit of issues for the ~7 years they drove it. It's no longer their primary vehicle.


When we bought our LX570 (in July) the worst vehicle I looked at was an 08 with 170k miles. The 2nd worst was a 2013 with 80k miles. The best, and one we bought, was an '11 with 125k miles. 45k miles more and a far better vehicle in maintenance and overall condition.

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Now the real question is if the OP is going to get rid of the vehicle because it's higher mileage has now magically made it a worse vehicle than when purchased?
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...and I am over here in Bulgaria, reading and laughing at odo fraud issue in the US! The odo is the last thing you look at when buying a car in the whole of Europe, even from reputable countries like Germany, where they allegedly have some system for tracking milage/kilometerage on vehicles! But in Eastern Europe...
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...and I am over here in Bulgaria, reading and laughing at odo fraud issue in the US! The odo is the last thing you look at when buying a car in the whole of Europe...
Have wondered what it's like in your area, thanks. I chuckle when I hear of it I'm in US, odo is last thing I look at also.

Congrats to OP on outcome.
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If you find yourself having to resell the vehicle then have fun telling the average joe that your used vehicle with an odometer reading past 300k is "just as good" as all those ~200k options on the market with unknown maintenance. To me that is the primary reason why odometer fraud is an issue in our case. Crooks wouldn't take the time to buy, roll back, and flip for a profit if this wasn't true.
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have fun telling the average joe that your used vehicle with an odometer reading past 300k is "just as good" as all those ~200k options...

yeah I know, you are right!
Statistically speaking tho, in the end it's just some people trying to buy some cars from people trying to make money off of them.

I know it's also about the concept of safety, an missing one over here and the rest of the world.

Funny how different parts of the world have pretty much the same kind of crap to deal with when alive, no matter the standard of living.
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