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Old 10-23-2020, 10:31 PM #16
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I'd rather the 4600s because I don't want the lift from the 5100s and because they come front and rear i just need a spring that's strong and will work. I might just order a set of runner springs and pair them with the 4600 struts up front. I don't mind if the front dips a little lower than the rear, maybe it'll even out once its loaded up. What do you guys think about a set of 4600s, front and rear paired with runner springs up front and 906 springs in the rear?
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I'd rather the 4600s because I don't want the lift from the 5100s and because they come front and rear i just need a spring that's strong and will work. I might just order a set of runner springs and pair them with the 4600 struts up front. I don't mind if the front dips a little lower than the rear, maybe it'll even out once its loaded up. What do you guys think about a set of 4600s, front and rear paired with runner springs up front and 906 springs in the rear?
At that point I would reuse my front springs, put 906's in the back, and 4600's all the way around. Front springs don't sag over time like rears do. If the price difference wasn't much then I would get 5100's all the way around.
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I'd rather the 4600s because I don't want the lift from the 5100s and because they come front and rear i just need a spring that's strong and will work. I might just order a set of runner springs and pair them with the 4600 struts up front. I don't mind if the front dips a little lower than the rear, maybe it'll even out once its loaded up. What do you guys think about a set of 4600s, front and rear paired with runner springs up front and 906 springs in the rear?
I have a 99 so I have the tall springs but I have been running the setup mentioned plus air bags for four years. I haul 1000 lbs a few times a year and it does not hold up well unless I assist it with the bags. It would bottom out like the factory springs would. With 25 psi the truck rides level and smooth.

The 4600 have gone noticeably soft lately and the truck leans quite a bit on turns. I have always ran 4600's on all my rigs but they don't seems to be working well this time around.

I am considering the OME HD kit with bags.

If you frequently haul any type of heavy load then it is a good idea to assist the springs with air bags.
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Putting my $0.02 in...

I just installed Dobinson C59-210V springs in my rear to handle the loaded storage/kitchen box in the back, full roof rack with awning/hi-lift/Maxtrax, Rago rear racks, all as full-time weight add-ons and they have been amazing! I plan to add skids, sliders, and a rear bumper within the next year, so with the ~4.25" of lift I currently have back there and these being progressive springs (unlike the 861's), I should still be sitting pretty for years to come.

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Random side note, make sure you change those front lower ball joints!

Also 906's are like 220 lbs sitting rate I think. I wouldn't personally go higher than that unless you will be constantly carrying gear, but that's just me
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I don’t understand why the 891s are rated for more load than the 906s but not progressive like the 906s. I’m sure I’ll have a constant weight of 600 pounds in the rear. Everyone still recommending the 906s? I’m pretty much sold on the 4600s and stock springs in front but now considering 891s in the rear. Anyone have a site or link to some front springs with a 2 inch lift to somewhat match the height of the rear?
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Just keep your front springs but use the 5100s. That way you can adjust the front ride height. Or get a set of the 99 tall front springs on the 5100s.

Either way I’d suggest trying the rear 906s first with the weight before buying stuff for the front. You won’t be at +2 inches with 600 lbs back there. They don’t squat a lot, but 600 lbs is going to bring it down.

You likely won’t want a full 2 in front. Maybe the oem springs will be ok with the 906s and 600lbs.
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Random side note, make sure you change those front lower ball joints!

Also 906's are like 220 lbs sitting rate I think. I wouldn't personally go higher than that unless you will be constantly carrying gear, but that's just me
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Just keep your front springs but use the 5100s. That way you can adjust the front ride height. Or get a set of the 99 tall front springs on the 5100s.

Either way I’d suggest trying the rear 906s first with the weight before buying stuff for the front. You won’t be at +2 inches with 600 lbs back there. They don’t squat a lot, but 600 lbs is going to bring it down.

You likely won’t want a full 2 in front. Maybe the oem springs will be ok with the 906s and 600lbs.
I see a set of 2880 or 2881 on the Bilstein site for the front they cost about the same as the oems. Here’s the link Front OME Coils for 95-04 Tacoma & 96-02 4Runner. Those paired with the 5100s and 906s in the rear. ���� Sound good guys?

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Brother everything is getting changed, even things that donÂ’t need to be changed. ItÂ’s a work vehicle and canÂ’t afford for it to stop while IÂ’m on the go; which is why IÂ’m trying to figure this suspension out because I donÂ’t want to be mucking around with it for a while.
Just make sure the lower ball joints are OEM. Take your risks/chances elsewhere.

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Just get any spring or suspension combo you prefer and add air bags. I have ran many suspensions on my jeeps and 4runner and none have held up to heavy hauling abuse like the air bags. They keep you level at any loads and can be aired down to as little as 5 psi to not be fully functional. You CANNOT go wrong with bags. They take all the guess work out of springs.

Even if you installed them and never had to air up then its always better to have em and not need em than need em and not have em.

Weather plays no role with them either. They are just like tires, air em up as needed.
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Like the gentleman said, airbags airbags airbags. I used them on my Tundra which I tow 10,000 pounds alot with. Airbags will not change my ride quality but allow me to air up according to the weight of my load. They work equally as well on the little loads that my 4 runners occasionally see and on the 4 runner they are very cheap and easy to install.
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Like the gentleman said, airbags airbags airbags. I used them on my Tundra which I tow 10,000 pounds alot with. Airbags will not change my ride quality but allow me to air up according to the weight of my load. They work equally as well on the little loads that my 4 runners occasionally see and on the 4 runner they are very cheap and easy to install.
Send me a link for a pair please.
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Google airbags or go to amazon and search for Firestone airbags. Those under 100.00 and are very easy to install and to air up or down according to your needs.
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Firestone airbags did not fit well inside my OME891 - they were too wide, and also weren’t tall enough so they really didn’t work well for me at all.

The Airlift 60743 has a spacer that you can put in which works much better for lofted springs


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