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Old 11-20-2020, 01:32 PM #46
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This one right? 4runner3

Looks similar to the Susquehanna one but they don't indicate what brand of relays they're using.
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This one right? 4runner3

Looks similar to the Susquehanna one but they don't indicate what brand of relays they're using.

When I built my own for the CJ7 it cost me 120 in wire and relays from napa. I wasnít going to use 3 dollar relays. Plus I bought prewired relay bases. The relays and prewired bases were not cheep.


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I jumped to the end here but ill be snagging a pair off BXBuilt for my 4th gen.

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How is the quality on that harness in your opinion? I found a way pricier version so I am just curious how its held up for you.

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Works great, on my second winter with it now. Doesn't get hot at all. Before I was running 60W/55W bulbs on stock wiring that's 18AWG which technically speaking, is exceeding the capacity of the wire since it's around 12 ft long. This harness is 14AWG and the longest power wire is about 6 ft long. That means I can run roughly 15 amps safely which is perfect, since the 100/80W bulbs will pull around 14.8ish amps on high beams and 11.8 amps on low beams at 13.8V. There's some safety room built in there as well as it's not going to start melting at 16 amps. The harness plugs are ceramic as well, you CANNOT use plastic connectors for the 100/80W bulbs so stay away from any of them that do have it, I noticed the one you linked is plastic. They will start to deform after repeated use. Here's the diagram of the harness:



Think of it this way: I can buy 6 of these harnesses before spending $150 on an over-engineered wire harness. There's some people that are ok spending $500+ on brighter headlights and supporting parts. I'm not one of those, this is a 22 year old SUV we are talking about.
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Works great, on my second winter with it now. Doesn't get hot at all. Before I was running 60W/55W bulbs on stock wiring that's 18AWG which technically speaking, is exceeding the capacity of the wire since it's around 12 ft long. This harness is 14AWG and the longest power wire is about 6 ft long. That means I can run roughly 15 amps safely which is perfect, since the 100/80W bulbs will pull around 14.8ish amps on high beams and 11.8 amps on low beams at 13.8V. There's some safety room built in there as well as it's not going to start melting at 16 amps. The harness plugs are ceramic as well, you CANNOT use plastic connectors for the 100/80W bulbs so stay away from any of them that do have it, I noticed the one you linked is plastic. They will start to deform after repeated use. Here's the diagram of the harness:



Think of it this way: I can buy 6 of these harnesses before spending $150 on an over-engineered wire harness. There's some people that are ok spending $500+ on brighter headlights and supporting parts. I'm not one of those, this is a 22 year old SUV we are talking about.

I just pulled the trigger to your Amazon link.


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This is good info as I'm trying to find a solution to dim headlights myself. I don't want to go down the hid road because somehow I don't really like the set up. And of course getting flagged because of running hid's at my yearly state inspection where I am.
I tried led's and yanked them as the high beam was a joke, low beam was good and the color 4300K was great but, it didn't throw the light far ahead for me.
I like the upgraded wiring harness and running higher wattage bulbs as mention above.
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Think of it this way: I can buy 6 of these harnesses before spending $150 on an over-engineered wire harness. There's some people that are ok spending $500+ on brighter headlights and supporting parts. I'm not one of those, this is a 22 year old SUV we are talking about.
I have to disagree with you. If the most you're doing with your truck is driving it down to the local mall, you are probably right. If, on the other hand, you're going to be actually driving the truck at night, in inclement weather, outside the built-up areas of Metroville, USA...? You may want to re-think that line of thought. Lights are life-safety items on dark secondary highways up in the mountains, and if you cheap out on them and then still persist in driving highway speeds, eventually you're going to run into something. Like a deer, elk, moose, rock, or dumbass pedestrian who is inexplicably walking in the middle of the road dressed in mostly stone-colored clothing.

I've had to spend quite a bit of time on winter-dark roads around here, and I'm going to keep putting money into upgrading my vehicle lighting on everything I have to drive under these conditions. Anything else is just asking for fate to catch up with you, either because you get rear-ended by some other idiot who actually thinks that the posted speed limit is the mandatory minimum, even though they're way over-driving their headlights to do so, or because you yourself are in a hurry and going faster than you really should.

Frankly, I want a minimum of about 3/4 mile visibility ahead of me, and if I don't have that, I've learned I need better lights.

Never ceases to amaze me how people project the conditions they've experienced on to others. California has a lot more light-hours per day in the winter than we do up here. We haven't even hit winter solstice yet, and daylight hours are down to about 8 hours of light. You go to work in the dark, you come home in the dark, and if you're driving anywhere after work to run errands or whatever, it's dark. Under those conditions, if you don't treat your lights with the same mentality that you do your seat belts and tires, you're nuts.
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Me too, going to see if it makes a difference with the Oedro H4 led bulbs I'm currently using, give the 100/80 bulbs a shot if needed.
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I have to disagree with you. If the most you're doing with your truck is driving it down to the local mall, you are probably right. If, on the other hand, you're going to be actually driving the truck at night, in inclement weather, outside the built-up areas of Metroville, USA...? You may want to re-think that line of thought. Lights are life-safety items on dark secondary highways up in the mountains, and if you cheap out on them and then still persist in driving highway speeds, eventually you're going to run into something. Like a deer, elk, moose, rock, or dumbass pedestrian who is inexplicably walking in the middle of the road dressed in mostly stone-colored clothing.



I've had to spend quite a bit of time on winter-dark roads around here, and I'm going to keep putting money into upgrading my vehicle lighting on everything I have to drive under these conditions. Anything else is just asking for fate to catch up with you, either because you get rear-ended by some other idiot who actually thinks that the posted speed limit is the mandatory minimum, even though they're way over-driving their headlights to do so, or because you yourself are in a hurry and going faster than you really should.



Frankly, I want a minimum of about 3/4 mile visibility ahead of me, and if I don't have that, I've learned I need better lights.



Never ceases to amaze me how people project the conditions they've experienced on to others. California has a lot more light-hours per day in the winter than we do up here. We haven't even hit winter solstice yet, and daylight hours are down to about 8 hours of light. You go to work in the dark, you come home in the dark, and if you're driving anywhere after work to run errands or whatever, it's dark. Under those conditions, if you don't treat your lights with the same mentality that you do your seat belts and tires, you're nuts.
I think both arguments are valid and it comes down to personal preference. For me, based on 19963.4lsr5's experience with building a harness from scratch and it costing $120 in parts, I question the quality of the components used in the amazon harness. Although I suppose you have to factor in China prices vs US prices for parts. It's just so hard to judge quality on those sorts of things. On my Corolla I replaced my turn signal relay with a cheaper version and the sound and click rate isn't the same as it was which drives me up a a wall. And I'm the type of person that if a $20 part or tool fails on me, I'm not going to buy another $20, I'm going to buy the $120 next time.

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I think both arguments are valid and it comes down to personal preference. For me, based on 19963.4lsr5's experience with building a harness from scratch and it costing $120 in parts, I question the quality of the components used in the amazon harness. Although I suppose you have to factor in China prices vs US prices for parts. It's just so hard to judge quality on those sorts of things. On my Corolla I replaced my turn signal relay with a cheaper version and the sound and click rate isn't the same as it was which drives me up a a wall. And I'm the type of person that if a $20 part or tool fails on me, I'm not going to buy another $20, I'm going to buy the $120 next time.

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I'm right there with you, on that. Life is too short for mechanical annoyances, and if it doesn't work right in the first place...? Fix it until it does.

Which is why I drive Toyotas--They (generally...) did it right in the first damn place. Other makes? Not so much... Ask me why I swore off Fords, sometime when you've got several hours to spare listening to my reasons.
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Me too, going to see if it makes a difference with the Oedro H4 led bulbs I'm currently using, give the 100/80 bulbs a shot if needed.

Fit the price and ceramic bulb connectors if I want to upgrade the relays to a better one or switch to 12awg I can do it later. As long as the high beam indicator and it doesnít mess up my factory fogs Iíll be happy.

I want to check voltage at the bulb yet with the lights on.


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Well the TYCs showed up today....annnnd they're going right back. The driver's side bulb shield is definitely not right. Looks like TYC assumed they were symmetrical but they're not. Passenger side is basically straight and the driver's is dipped down and to the side. I could probably bend it into the right orientation but I don't really want to have to modify something brand new to get it to work.


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Now the question is do I try Depos or just get OEMs. I'm guessing the Depos are coming out of the same Chinese factory as the TYCs.

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