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Old 12-11-2020, 03:14 PM #16
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I know this topic goes around and around...

I have been running 2x trucks now one with the TBU and one without it, as soon as the truck with the TBU needs any front brake work the TBU is going in the trash. never again will I waste money on it. the brake pedal feel is way different and I hate the TBU. can't wait to get rid of it.
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Yes your braking distance is reduced with the TBU, given the road is dry and your tires aren’t complete shit.

Measuring Stopping Distance of a Toyota Tacoma with Tundra brakes - YouTube
Whoa, thanks for sharing! I knew it make them better but didn't realize it was THAT much of a difference!
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I know this topic goes around and around...

I have been running 2x trucks now one with the TBU and one without it, as soon as the truck with the TBU needs any front brake work the TBU is going in the trash. never again will I waste money on it. the brake pedal feel is way different and I hate the TBU. can't wait to get rid of it.
It's so odd how some users, like me, could not be happier on the upgrade. And then others, like you, do the exact same thing, same bleeding techniques and have a very soft pedal feel and makes it worse. There's a variable here that I am not seeing that's affecting this swap.
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It's so odd how some users, like me, could not be happier on the upgrade. And then others, like you, do the exact same thing, same bleeding techniques and have a very soft pedal feel and makes it worse. There's a variable here that I am not seeing that's affecting this swap.
I wish I knew because I have had the same results on 2x trucks. TBU pedal feels ded to me, it's like a brick with no feedback as if the entire braking system is failing... sinking and the brakes are dying. the harder you press the less braking your getting and your going to hit something.

the same truck with stock caliper/toyota rotor and same Toyota ceramic type of pads brakes feel smooth and responsive with excellent feedback and ample braking with little or no extra effort required.

I don't know I wish I knew what the difference was? I just feel like I have complete control with the stock calipers vs this truck is going to kill me with TBU sinking pedal of death.

I would even say the brakes on my land rover work better than the TBU setup.
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Did you ABS delete because of the T100 master not working well with the ABS system?
Yes and no. I bought it with a bad wheel speed sensor. I replaced it with a good sensor and the whole system did weird things. Went from not working at all to picking the most random times to work. It did get worse when I upgraded. It engage almost immediately and then release and work normally, so I just pulled the fuse. I *think* my right rear axle seal leaks a bit and that drum grabs a little harder than the other side. Increased the pressure, increased the problem, but I don't care enough to figure out if that was it. Always hated the ABS on these things anyway. I used ABS compatible parts though.
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I wish I knew because I have had the same results on 2x trucks. TBU pedal feels ded to me, it's like a brick with no feedback as if the entire braking system is failing... sinking and the brakes are dying. the harder you press the less braking your getting and your going to hit something.

the same truck with stock caliper/toyota rotor and same Toyota ceramic type of pads brakes feel smooth and responsive with excellent feedback and ample braking with little or no extra effort required.

I don't know I wish I knew what the difference was? I just feel like I have complete control with the stock calipers vs this truck is going to kill me with TBU sinking pedal of death.

I would even say the brakes on my land rover work better than the TBU setup.
So I had that issue as well on my SR5. I'm convinced that it's a combination of a bunch of little things. I'd bet your rear auto adjusters don't work. If not, your wheel cylinders are increasing in stroke as your shoes wear down. That accounts for an additional flow need.

Larger Calipers? Takes more fluid to squeeze. Additional Flow. I bet if you pump your peddle twice when slowing down it's significantly better on the second pump. At least mine was. Getting the rears tight helped a ton as well. Adding the larger MC was the final piece.

Now even when my rears are out I'm not past half travel. A second pump and I can lock all 4 with ease.

To be clear, both the 4Runner and T100 boosters are dual diaphragm, and you don't gain a lot of volume with the additional diameter. The only reason I changed the booster was to facilitate the install of a 4 bolt MC. Keeping everything Toyota kept me from having to change fittings or use adapters.
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