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Old 05-28-2021, 09:17 AM #76
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How did you get the ATF temperature? Thanks.

From the main menu screen, select “All Sensors”. There are two entries for ATF temperature. IIRC, it’s the first one that we care about “(AT) ATF temperature var. 1” (should be clear which one you want since the other entry will have no live data).

The screenshot I posted was of my customized dashboard. I played around with the layout, colors, fonts, and which sensor data I wanted to see. From the main menu screen, select “Dashboard”. Then select the gear icon to edit the screen.
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From the main menu screen, select “All Sensors”. There are two entries for ATF temperature. IIRC, it’s the first one that we care about “(AT) ATF temperature var. 1” (should be clear which one you want since the other entry will have no live data).

The screenshot I posted was of my customized dashboard. I played around with the layout, colors, fonts, and which sensor data I wanted to see. From the main menu screen, select “Dashboard”. Then select the gear icon to edit the screen.
Unfortunately, my version of Car Scanner Pro (purchased today) does not have any sensors for ATF temperature. I found a video from Australia with a guy showing how to add it but I'm not sure of the formula he used if it will apply here and give results in °F. I'll see how it works when I go home today.
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Unfortunately, my version of Car Scanner Pro (purchased today) does not have any sensors for ATF temperature. I found a video from Australia with a guy showing how to add it but I'm not sure of the formula he used if it will apply here and give results in °F. I'll see how it works when I go home today.

Maybe check that you’re using the correct vehicle profile / protocol? See attached

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Maybe check that you’re using the correct vehicle profile / protocol? See attached

Thank you for the help. I needed the connection profile you are using.
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I'm having the same issue but mine has intermittent start, especially after driving the car and starting it again ~15 mins later. I did a lot of the same changes you did from dropping the fuel tank to changing vacuum lines etc. From what I've search the contacts in the starter needs to be replaced and its pretty cheap on RockAuto Starter motor repair kit. I'll be updating this when I find the time to change it out on the weekend.
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I'm having the same issue but mine has intermittent start, especially after driving the car and starting it again ~15 mins later. I did a lot of the same changes you did from dropping the fuel tank to changing vacuum lines etc. From what I've search the contacts in the starter needs to be replaced and its pretty cheap on RockAuto Starter motor repair kit. I'll be updating this when I find the time to change it out on the weekend.

How are you associating long crank times to bad starter contacts.


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Maybe thinking engine turning is too slow is all I can come up with.

Granted, 2 to 2.5 seconds is normal because the ecu will not enable fuel pump until it senses the engine rpm for safety.

Starter contacts either work or they don't with some intermittently when going bad. So I am perplexed as you are...:/

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I'm having the same issue but mine has intermittent start, especially after driving the car and starting it again ~15 mins later. I did a lot of the same changes you did from dropping the fuel tank to changing vacuum lines etc. From what I've search the contacts in the starter needs to be replaced and its pretty cheap on RockAuto Starter motor repair kit. I'll be updating this when I find the time to change it out on the weekend.
Had same symptoms long ago it turned out to be the injectors (or 1 bad), but I got them all redone by WitchHunter.
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How are you associating long crank times to bad starter contacts.
Dirt, oxidation etc. Acts likes an insulation causing low voltage to properly turn the motor.
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Yes. Possible. However, if the starter isn't spinning at it normal speed. You know it has issues if everything else is good. Starters are like alternators. Average time frame 180k to 230k, then they need TLC.

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Yes. Possible. However, if the starter isn't spinning at it normal speed. You know it has issues if everything else is good. Starters are like alternators. Average time frame 180k to 230k, then they need TLC.
Welp mine has 300k, its time to change out the old one and keep the other for spare/rebuild. $140 for a brand new Denso
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Welp mine has 300k, its time to change out the old one and keep the other for spare/rebuild. $140 for a brand new Denso
Where you getting brand new Denso for $140??
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Try turning it to the "on" position before starting it. This gives the fuel pump a longer chance to engage before attempting to start.
The ECU will not enable the fuel pump until it gets the signal that it senses 200 rpm from the crank sensor. This is a safety feature in the 3rd gens. So turning the key to run will do nothing..
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If not turning too slow, very will might be leaking or malfunctioning injectors. Mostly have no beans of the fuel filter or fuel pump issue.

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