good lord, man; I'm not sure what your issue is - your assessment of the frame side drop is incorrect, and your attack on my business is completely unwarranted - what's your actual angle here? Do you really think I'm going to open my books to you?

What's your actual criticism of my product, as a non-user?

I guess im a fool, cause im gonna shell out soon for another set of Keiths brackets for my next build

His issue seems to be jealousy that you actually did the thing he probably fantasized about. It a common psychological thing that I cant remember the name of. It's a way some people try to emotionally justify the excuses they make to themself through criticizing and downplaying others.

Not quite sure what's up with the attack on such a well-respected vendor. I think that the responsiveness on this thread and the numerous R&D posts/explanations really exemplify the value which EIMKeith has added to this platform.

Staying true to the OP's question, @JerkyDrewster just posted in his build thread here about swapping his Toytec frame-side bracket for EIM ones on both frame and axle. He seemed to report positive results but he might be able to elaborate on seat-of-the-pants feel seeing as he just did the swap. Something tells me that debating the engineering or material cost comparison of the two options might not be productive...

Thanks @eimkeith for the bracket! Works like a charm.

Great! - glad you like it!

I've bought TWO PCKs for my '98. First was for the original lift, second was last fall when I replaced the axle. Had the drop bracket on the frame, but just welded up the PH raise bracket a few weekends ago. The on-road difference (even without SBs) taking freeway turns at 70 mph is noticeably more "thrilling/terrifying" without the PH frame raise mount welded in. Almost feels safer than my '05 with blown XREAS and connected swaybars lol. Makes my "aurora" glow...

I'll be doing an IronMan lift on the '05 within a few months here, and ordering the 4th/5th gen PCK. Feeling the difference in on-road cornering with vs without, I wouldn't run a 2"+ Toyota lift without one.

I just sent him money for parts that don't even exist yet. He has done more for this community to advance wheeling than some blowhard who talks about qa/qc on custom made parts that run in the volumes under 1000 every other year.

This is laughable and really sad all at the same time.

Keith has put his heart and soul into bringing us stellar products- including scrapping parts because something didn’t get bent or cut 100% perfect.

To have someone say that these are $10 parts that a high school student could easily make is just showing pure ignorance.

But unreasonable people can’t be reasoned with, and mr shooter has clearly shown his ignorance here.

If you know what’s involved in making parts like this, have had Keith’s parts in your hand, and have experienced first hand how well they fit- you’ll be guaranteed to be extremely impressed with them.

To add to that- his PCK make an incredible difference in handling on our rigs. I drive my 4R hard, and it’s extremely predictable and stable.

I couldn’t recommend Keith’s parts more 👍🏼

Thanks for the Info guys ! .. Eimkeith' I like your design and watched Austins Offroad garages -install- Test Drive ' ..Thanks for All youve Done these Third Gens are Awesome ! ..Having Fab skills myself, being a Hot Rodder.".im always Browsing the 4x4 catalogues-Sites" for stuff that will Adapt over to Hot Rodz " Street Rods" .. Im Fabbing a PanHard Bar for my Tubbed' Pro-Street Turbo car.. I dont like " Diagnol Links" ..

I feel like every time I see a post from that Shooter guy around here, he's being an unwarranted prick.

Hoping to get my PCK welded on soon since it's been sitting in my garage for almost 3 years now. Finally got the issue sorted with my rear axle housing and I know I'm not replacing it.

Nice! - I thought I was the only one on a glacial timeline on personal projects around here, lol.

I had to go back and check, I bought it from you in June of 2018. Sometimes it's just hard to find the time and motivation for me anymore.