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Old 05-10-2021, 01:42 PM #31
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2 years ago I paid $3000 for a bone-stock, rust-free, original-owner, 220k, 2000 LTD e-locker. I could have flipped it for a pretty penny with a quick clean-up, but I'd still never have been able to own a 3rd gen now. The market hadn't blown up - and I did get lucky as it was not advertised (word of mouth in the neighborhood). Now it's dirty, modded, dented, and pinstriped but I will never sell it.

Edit - Now we're in a 'steel-bubble' where plate has tripled in price, so armor is going to be a pricey proposition soon til production catches up. Lumber is f*cked too.
no kidding on lumber and metal prices........lumber yards up here wont quote a price more than a week....metal roofing has gone up 4x since last summer.
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Same here with wood. I didn't know they were so sky high. I ran into a contractor who enlightened/shocked me. 4x8 plywood $68!! per sheet.

At this moment, there are 5 3rd gen 4x4 going for an average $11074 in my local area. Cheapest being $5k. And 13995 on the high end.

As Endlessblockades mention, I don't think I'm able to replace our 00 that we bought in 2014 from a private owner for 3500, if we had to buy another one.
In 2014 PO had a hard time finding buyers for this rig. It was on CL for 3 weeks. His best offer was 2500 which the PO refused.
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yep, prices are going nuts...looked at a 99 4wd with locker yesterday..3rd owner and he has had for almost 10 years, no service records other than a gates timing belt done last year....no idea on LBJ's, brown radiator ( so prob original) 220k miles, torn driver seat, sunroof not working and glued shut, windows are real slow,pass rear does not go up or down, he has never used the locker and it did nto want to kick on... needs tires... ..pictures in add were prob a few years old.....and he is locked at 9.5k and wont budge on price.
there is another ....99 limited, 170k, locker, has a few issues and he is at 11k will need about 1k into it to get it up to snuff ( LBJ's radiator, brakes)
kind of pissing me off.....makes my 2001 look better all the time....but its on its last legs without me throwing in tons and tons $$$$$$$$$$$

side note : they are hard to find good ones up here and price just keeps going up and up, I only paid 4800 for my 2001 in december, but it was a fixer upper ( needed plugs, a coil and a fuel filter, was running on 4cylinders) but its been in a front end wreck and repaired poorly, has more rust then I like, suspension is shot, exhasut is shot, needs timing belt, water pump is now weeping and now that spendy brake master cylinder is acting up, sitting at 290k. Can prob sell for 6-7k the way prices are up here now
I got my 99 totaled and they gave me 9.6K for it with 190K miles on it.. was 2wd 4 cylinder. Probably could have sold for 12K if it didnt get totaled. Crazy part is I paid 9.9K 14 years ago for it.
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I got my 99 totaled and they gave me 9.6K for it with 190K miles on it.. was 2wd 4 cylinder. Probably could have sold for 12K if it didnt get totaled. Crazy part is I paid 9.9K 14 years ago for it.
Can you share your insurer? I was thinking of taking mine off Comprehensive because I am afraid they would 'total' it at an undervalued rate if I got hit and I would lose the truck and especially the mods. Buying it back at auction seems like a crapshoot. We have AAA which is one of the most expensive from what I hear (wife has had the policy for years). Did you have to pre-establish a valuation with your insurer or did they look at current prices?

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Can you share your insurer? I was thinking of taking mine off Comprehensive because I am afraid they would 'total' it at an undervalued rate if I got hit and I would lose the truck and especially the mods. Buying it back at auction seems like a crapshoot. We have AAA which is one of the most expensive from what I hear (wife has had the policy for years). Did you have to pre-establish a valuation with your insurer or did they look at current prices?

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I have AAA and had full coverage... they gave me the option to keep my car with a salvage title plus cash but i wasn't interested. They looked at current market value which was between 7-9K for what they showed as comparable. I also got 2 weeks of rental car out of them so I didnt do that bad.

I now have a 2021 TRD Off Road in Classic Silver Metallic had 33 miles on it when I drove off the lot.
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I have AAA and had full coverage... they gave me the option to keep my car with a salvage title plus cash but i wasn't interested. They looked at current market value which was between 7-9K for what they showed as comparable. I also got 2 weeks of rental car out of them so I didnt do that bad.

I now have a 2021 TRD Off Road in Classic Silver Metallic had 33 miles on it when I drove off the lot.

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Idk about you guys but I've thankfully noticed them start to drop. I have a few friends that were looking for 4Runners for some time so the other day I decided to take a gander at the FB Marketplace for the giggles, and was surprised to see many listings falling back to the $4-6k ballpark. Most were topping out at $8k and those were built up rigs. Even saw an FJ80 for $5k, though it was very rusted out. Perhaps the bubble is popping... for the time being
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Ironically was just discussing this yesterday with my uncles as nearly all of them build houses and manage construction. Timber is at a historic low right now, so low that companies aren't sending loggers out because they're loosing money doing so, yet lumber is at a historic high right now because there's essentially a national shortage that the lumber mills can't fill no matter how hard they try. The cheapest boards of OSB right now are $60+, but you could buy an entire uncut log for that price right now. Absolutely crazy out there.
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Ironically was just discussing this yesterday with my uncles as nearly all of them build houses and manage construction. Timber is at a historic low right now, so low that companies aren't sending loggers out because they're loosing money doing so, yet lumber is at a historic high right now because there's essentially a national shortage that the lumber mills can't fill no matter how hard they try. The cheapest boards of OSB right now are $60+, but you could buy an entire uncut log for that price right now. Absolutely crazy out there.
We are in the middle of a house addition that we started the process for pre-covid (it took 11 months to get the permit - thanks, California). 4x10 sheets for shear walls are $90. Our contractor offered to rip up pieces as spacers where there are no shear walls instead of sheeting the whole thing to save $$$ because things are so crazy.

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Here's some more Crazy for you that I just came across today. 2000 "Limited" (VIN says it was an SR5, however) 4WD on eBay.I searched 2000 4Runner to see if a manual or whatnot was out there....

Current bid (of 22) $33,656 "Reserve Not Met" LOL. It's not even an E-locker. Sure, they put a sh1t ton of work into it, but how much were these new again?



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That one comes up pretty frequently on here. Super nice looking truck, IMO, though people definitely have differing opinions. I've never seen it bidded up that high. Though the value may seem kinda crazy, I may consider doing something stupid like that if I had F U money. I think I'd rather go for a low mile OEM + one than one that's been torn into and rebuilt. I'm just skeptical of rebuilt mechanical bits vs. Factory built ones. As the years go on, the value of these types of rebuilds will be more commonly accepted. There were just so many of these sold and they're so reliable that buying a full rebuild seems crazy at this point.
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Here's some more Crazy for you that I just came across today. 2000 "Limited" (VIN says it was an SR5, however) 4WD on eBay.I searched 2000 4Runner to see if a manual or whatnot was out there....

Current bid (of 22) $33,656 "Reserve Not Met" LOL. It's not even an E-locker. Sure, they put a sh1t ton of work into it, but how much were these new again?



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This is probably the 5th time this has been shared here. It won't sell and has been listed since early winter
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This is probably the 5th time this has been shared here. It won't sell and has been listed since early winter
Oh schitt - sorry about that. I hadn't come across it before.

Edit - or more likely I forgot.
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Here's a ridiculous 2WD example! I wouldn't even pay half of what they're asking.
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I kinda feel like I stole mine early last year at a little over 2k seeing where prices are now. Crazy thing is I ended up with one of the unicorns without even knowing it.....

All that was really wrong with it was an oil cooler gasket, a leaky shoddily repaired original radiator (new one was only like $130), and some hack bondo work. Lots of little things have had/ still need to be fixed. Granted it has 371k on the clock, but the engine is less than 50 percent worn out by the Toyota 5VZ spec I found.

It’s had 1k in body work so far to fix the ugly. But slowly and steadily she’s turning into one hell of a nice rig. Lots of Toyota parts into it, but it’s still way cheaper than a side by side, plus no trailer need. A/C is a real plus. I’m not even into it new four wheeler/arc money into mine yet even with several thousands in parts and goodies.

Originally I wanted a JKUR, but the simply retarded money those bring caused me to give up on that idea. I have a thing for paid for vehicles now due to my past life experiences. She’s purely a toy for me (what a marvelous one she is too!), the way it’s built though, it could be a daily easily if needed. It still knocked out 19mpg on the way back from Moab.

I totally found this one on accident. So happened to be a highlander.......Guy was hard up for money I think, and couldn’t or didn’t know how to fix anything. Luckily for me I was able to throw a crazy low ball number out for it and got it. Of course knowing how to fix things is a serious plus on this situation.

I’ve easily had double the monies worth in enjoyment so far with my 99’ sport according to the dealer printed build sheet. The suspension and tire combo is great. The durobumps are awesome at the bottom outs. It’s lives for the high speed rally, and it had no problem rock crawling in Moab either. It ate up hells revenge and find and things without issue.

It’s not big horsepower, but what an absolutely kick ass fun rig. That all said, for north of the $25k mark I’d probably do something different. Your squarely in 5th gen territory there, not to mention JKU territory. No, those aren’t the skinny big Boobied gal that the 3rd gen is, but they have a lot to like also.

I think people get too hung up on how much something is worth. Transmission rebuild isn’t that bad. If you have a decent engine machine shop around the engine isn’t that bad either. I could redo both of those for 4-5k all in. Yeah it’s a lot of money, and I’m making my time free for myself, but that’s still pretty reasonable overall in my book.

Don’t be scared to fix them yourself. The era of YouTube made the education part much easier and cheaper. I had to go to a heavy diesel tech school plus a few decades of experience to go learn what you can watch for free on YouTube for practically anything you can imagine.

I’ll sell mine for $20k?...............lol...........nah, that’s horseshit........she ain’t for sale.
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It is not just the 4runner, all toyota 4x4 trucks have gone up. I had an opportunity to buy a 94 LC 80 series for $4000 with 150K miles but I didn't. Now, those go for 10K for 200+ miles. 100 series LC's are 15K+ range. Tacomas are the most expensive and I ended up buying a brand new Taco 4x4 manual after searching used tacos. Toyota Dealer in Arlington wanted $1000 more for a 1000 miles driven taco manual than a brand new taco (manual requires 3-6 month wait) Its crazy.. I am not buying any more Toys soon, however, I find a long term parked 98 taco 4x4 extra cab with deflated tires on the way to work. Feel like taking to them and make an offer. This Toyota trucks are very addictive!
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