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Old 04-12-2021, 01:21 PM #1
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torque converter or me ?

I did do a search....and as title says...it could be me getting forgetful.
I had my last 4runner for 5 years. lived in the hills. Had this one now for 4+months.....285k....but supposedly tranny was replaced at one point 6 years ago...according to previous owner.
the fluids are full, clean, red, dont smell. Today was first day that temps have been above 25 since owning. My torque pro adapter was at home ( why ?) so could not check trans temp at the time. Otherwise shifts fine...just like it should....idles at about 750 rpm....55 mph on th eflats is just over 1500....stomp on it and get no slipping. At least for now.

Anyway....today leaving the gas station that has a slight incline....the 4 runner wanted to roll backwards if my foot was off the gas or at idle.
I dont rember my old one doing that and if was a steep hill I always had my foot on the brake. But I dont remeber the old one doing it at this same gas station and dont rember this one doing it either... but today was the longest I have ever had to sit on that incline to pull out.
could be just me..... not paying that much attention in past.
I have been critical of this 2001...its got lots of issues and now I pay extra attention to every little wiggle, vibration, noise. It was....as they say....rode hard and put away wet....its had a hard life. I recently thought I had a flex plate noise...ends up its the cat rattling now.
Am actually keeping my eyes open for a replacement, but the good ones are rare and usually sell real quick....like in a day.
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That's normal for 3Rd gen automatics at idle.
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That's normal for 3Rd gen automatics at idle.
thanks....I thought so...but like I said...im a bit frustrated with this 4runner and overthinking lots of things, like oh no...whats wrong now.
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thanks....I thought so...but like I said...im a bit frustrated with this 4runner and overthinking lots of things, like oh no...whats wrong now.
I hear ya. You went from a well taken care of 4runner, to one that was abused and are noticing the results of that neglect.
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My 97 does that on steeper inclines.


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Mine will do that on an incline if it's idling around 600 RPM. Any higher and it doesn't do that, I think you hit it on when noticing that once it gets all warmed up (which I'm guessing doesn't do that under 25 degrees!) the idle starts to drop down.
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Yes it is normal like ^^^ has mentioned. Every auto trans has a stall speed built in. It allows the engine to rev without engaging the trans to a built in rpm. Stock torque converters stall speeds are low enough to allow the engine to idle and engage the trans at a relatively low rpm. Some roll back is to be expected on inclines until the rps goes up.
Some race torque converters (in comparison) pending on stall speed, allows the engine to rev to 3000+ rpm before engaging the trans.
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My 01 will do the same on a steep hill...

don't forget on a long, steep incline If you want to use 4Lo, you may start in 2nd gear, this avoids the hard 1-2 shift and it still has plenty of torque starting from 2nd, nice feature on 01-02s....
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