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Old 05-15-2021, 11:07 PM #16
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Includes new Toyota radiator, upper and lower hoses and thermostat, flush system and all new Toyota coolant. Everything in San Francisco is stupid expensive
You dodged a big one with your 22 year old original rad. If you do it yourself, all those parts should be around $240 with online Toyota parts. Or around $330 Toyota retail.
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Rad replace is a really easy job. I got an OEM (in 2013) and it was ≈$210 at that time. Now they're even cheaper...$121 at my local internet-enabled dealer.
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Toyota Radiator, dealer-supplied, $109 before tax (or shipping, this is my local dealer)

1996-2002 Toyota 4Runner Radiator Assembly 16410-AZ011 | LaGrange Toyota

Hoses are another $50, t-stat is $20 ~ Under $200 in dealer supplied, OEM parts (or maybe just over depending on taxes). It's only about an hour job, so their shop rate is ~$300/hour?
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One of the finest vehicles I've ever owned.
Nice ride! My first car was a '75 Camaro with a Factory 4 speed. It was a rust bucket from Illinois with two cracked heads, a real Fixer. But I had more fun learning how to work on cars on that thing .
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Toyota Radiator, dealer-supplied, $109 before tax (or shipping, this is my local dealer)

1996-2002 Toyota 4Runner Radiator Assembly 16410-AZ011 | LaGrange Toyota

Hoses are another $50, t-stat is $20 ~ Under $200 in dealer supplied, OEM parts (or maybe just over depending on taxes). It's only about an hour job, so their shop rate is ~$300/hour?
Where are you located? He said the radiator alone was over $200. I'll double check with the dealer.
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Where are you located? He said the radiator alone was over $200. I'll double check with the dealer.
Georgia, but even with shipping from here you'd be under $200 and I *strongly* suspect that most Toyota dealers will get close to matching costs.

1996-2002 Toyota 4Runner Radiator Assembly 16410-AZ011 | Camelback Toyota Parts

$118 from Camelback (AZ)


16410AZ011 - Toyota Radiator assembly | San Francisco Toyota, San Francisco CA

And $118 from SF Toyota, as local to you as I'm willing to look. Absolutely *NOT* $200 or more.
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you guys are so lucky...I have only one dealer for over 300 miles, and he charges about 20% over MSRP...so those radiators would be about 200
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there was a discussion about toyota dealer radiator....there are 2 kinds for same car... one expensive and other one cheap.... Parts guy saying the cheap one denoted by AZ as made in china Denso... and other expensive one as made in Japan.....

and another mentioned that Koyo is still cheap but some of them or all are still made in Japan ones...

If I were you... I would get the Japan Koyo one over the Chinese Denso from dealer, rock auto or amazon...

I have a Koyo that i put in my 05 sienna at 90k miles and now at 245k miles...still going good.. made me a believer in Koyo brand....unless they also moved theirs to China made.

I just had too many auto made in china parts fail that I avoid them as much as possible.... they don't believe in long quality reliability parts, only $$$ profits..
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there was a discussion about toyota dealer radiator....there are 2 kinds for same car... one expensive and other one cheap.... Parts guy saying the cheap one denoted by AZ as made in china Denso... and other expensive one as made in Japan.....

and another mentioned that Koyo is still cheap but some of them or all are still made in Japan ones...

If I were you... I would get the Japan Koyo one over the Chinese Denso from dealer, rock auto or amazon...

I have a Koyo that i put in my 05 sienna at 90k miles and now at 245k miles...still going good.. made me a believer in Koyo brand....unless they also moved theirs to China made.

I just had too many auto made in china parts fail that I avoid them as much as possible.... they don't believe in long quality reliability parts, only $$$ profits..
I got my Denso from the dealer in SF for around $115.00 & they said there is no longer a Japanese-made OEM version. The Denso is made in Taiwan, not the mainland. Big difference for me. I would buy a Koyo or Champion before a Mainland PRC product. If they fully strangle Taiwan, I will stop buying there as well, but I'm a weirdo.
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Where are you located? He said the radiator alone was over $200. I'll double check with the dealer.
BTW, SF Toyota only has good prices for online items that are 'shipped'. The shipping charges are ridiculous, so what they did for me was let me pick up the radiator at the Geary service center and they refunded the shipping charge at pickup.
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you guys are so lucky...I have only one dealer for over 300 miles, and he charges about 20% over MSRP...so those radiators would be about 200
We have "those" dealers here too. Toyota counter parts guys call it Matrix pricing for walk in customers. I asked them to explain what is Matrix pricing and if I could just pay the published list price. They just snicker as if matrix pricing was an inside secret.
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I got my Denso from the dealer in SF for around $115.00 & they said there is no longer a Japanese-made OEM version. The Denso is made in Taiwan, not the mainland. Big difference for me. I would buy a Koyo or Champion before a Mainland PRC product. If they fully strangle Taiwan, I will stop buying there as well, but I'm a weirdo.


I'm totally doing the same in boycotting the whole PRC thing.

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BTW, SF Toyota only has good prices for online items that are 'shipped'. The shipping charges are ridiculous, so what they did for me was let me pick up the radiator at the Geary service center and they refunded the shipping charge at pickup.


I like when stealerships do the right thing and totally help out customers with pricing.
A stealership here saw my matrix pricing disappointment and whispered how I can get close to internet pricing over the counter there. The sad part is, parts will only be available when they get to it within a day.
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well I was wrong.....the local ( and only dealer) wants more than 20% over msrp.....so radiator from them is 219 and he does
not have in stock
Aftermarket up here runs about 190. (Autozone duralast, Orielleys murry brand)
The local Napa sells the denso and stocks it at 208.

yes I can get from amazon, the biggest problems with denso is the crappy packaging Denso does, and everytime I got a denso from amazon in the past there has been issues with bent fins, broken spout, and thats when I lived in Oreogn, cant imagine what problems to ship to me here in alaska
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yes I can get from amazon, the biggest problems with denso is the crappy packaging Denso does, and everytime I got a denso from amazon in the past there has been issues with bent fins, broken spout...
Mine arrived just fine, went with the slightly more expensive 'prime' denso so there would be no cost to me if returns were needed. Been a couple years but it was about $110 then. Running like a champ!
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Rad replace is a really easy job. I got an OEM (in 2013) and it was ≈$210 at that time. Now they're even cheaper...$121 at my local internet-enabled dealer.
I just did the same, Toyota here in SD had one for $117. Only took me an hour or so to do the job.
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