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Old 08-13-2021, 06:59 PM #31
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OK here's what I decided to go with.
  • OEM lower and upper ball joints
  • ACDELCO OEM replacement coils
  • KYB KG54317 shocks
  • KYB KG9025 struts
  • Mevotech tie rods
  • Mevotech sway bar links
  • Energy suspension sway bar bushings
  • Energy suspension bump stops

Sort of a mix between ultra plush and performance. Any update will be an upgrade over the tired OEM parts and the cracked sway bar links. The rig goes in for service at the end of the month, when I get it back I'll report back how it feels.
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Ok all, I finally got the truck back from the shop and oh man, was this worth every penny.
I don't mean to hijack your thread but I'm trying to basically replicate your upgrades on my '96 SR5.

I'm curious about which ACDELCO coils you went with. I've read differing opinions about coils for the 15"/16" wheels being equivalent to 99 talls. I'm only seeing 45H0368 (16") & 370 (15") on RockAuto for the fronts. Had to search specifically for 45H0369 to even find them. Every time I think I'm ready to order, another question comes up!

I'm already at 21 1/4 FL and 21 1/2 FR, hub center to flare, which leads me to believe these aren't original coils on my '96. (or are they?) Rears are at 20 1/2 left and 21 right. Point is, I don't want to end up lower than I am now. I've lost count of how many browser tabs I have open trying to figure this out. Seems everyone is right and everyone is wrong about the color codes. I have blue/red front driver side, blue/blue front passenger side and single orange on the rears.

Driver front (and if I understand Timmy, that spring's clocked about 90 degrees off?)



Passenger front



About a foot in height, installed



My original plan was to order 45H0368 for the front and 45H2131 for the rear (both for 16" wheels). Also wondering if I should order new top plates or just reuse what's there. History tells me I'm probably overthinking this. I'm hoping someone can help straighten me out!
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I'm already at 21 1/4 FL and 21 1/2 FR, hub center to flare, which leads me to believe these aren't original coils on my '96. (or are they?)
The blue/blue and blue/pink paint marks are the original colors for your truck, although there's no telling if the coils are original or were replaced with another set.

The height seems to be about an inch higher than OEM, my '97 was 20.5" FL and 20.75" FR stock. But I noticed than when I replaced the OEM shocks with the KYB Gas-A-Adjusts that you also have, the height increased by about 3/4", so that may explain why you are sitting higher than stock.
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The blue/blue and blue/pink paint marks are the original colors for your truck, although there's no telling if the coils are original or were replaced with another set.

The height seems to be about an inch higher than OEM, my '97 was 20.5" FL and 20.75" FR stock. But I noticed than when I replaced the OEM shocks with the KYB Gas-A-Adjusts that you also have, the height increased by about 3/4", so that may explain why you are sitting higher than stock.
Of course... I was only thinking about the coils changing the height, ignoring the shocks. Guess I'll quit screwing around, order the ACDELCOs for the 16" wheels and wait for RockAuto to restock the KYBs.

Dumb question, but if I'm using KYBs should I go with KYB top plates? No reason to believe twice the price means twice as nice.

Can't wait to be finished with this and move on to hood struts! I thought for sure I'd win a pair at Timmy's last weekend but they went to one of the guys I caravanned down with.
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Of course... I was only thinking about the coils changing the height, ignoring the shocks. Guess I'll quit screwing around, order the ACDELCOs for the 16" wheels and wait for RockAuto to restock the KYBs.

Dumb question, but if I'm using KYBs should I go with KYB top plates? No reason to believe twice the price means twice as nice.

Can't wait to be finished with this and move on to hood struts! I thought for sure I'd win a pair at Timmy's last weekend but they went to one of the guys I caravanned down with.
KYB top plates are great quality. I used them when I installed 4600s in 2016 and they were still in great shape when I removed that suspension for my lift this Spring. I used another pair of KYB top plates for the lift too.
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My original plan was to order 45H0368 for the front and 45H2131 for the rear (both for 16" wheels). Also wondering if I should order new top plates or just reuse what's there. History tells me I'm probably overthinking this. I'm hoping someone can help straighten me out!
Your original springs and top hats look pretty darn nice to me, itís rare to see them without rust.

As neither the oem front springs or top hats are known to wear out, Iíd reuse them and just replace the shock. I donít think kyb top hats and ac delco coils will be of any improvement.
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Your original springs and top hats look pretty darn nice to me, it’s rare to see them without rust.

As neither the oem front springs or top hats are known to wear out, I’d reuse them and just replace the shock. I don’t think kyb top hats and ac delco coils will be of any improvement.
Thanks. I'm in CA and the 4R is from OR but I'm from MI so I'm very grateful for the lack of rust! As much I'd love to save $100 I included the front coils and KYB tops in the order. Figure if nothing else, it's worth saving the mental anguish I'd inflict on myself if I don't and start wondering what if!
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I recently bought a 98 5 speed with an old man emu set up and Iím blown away wirh how well it rides. I genuinely think it rides better than stock.
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@ch1966 this is sort of what I could work out last night as well. I ordered parts last night, I'll let you guys know how it turns out and if the ride is significantly better
I am thinking of the same setup. Are the springs still holding up nicely?

I'll probably get Bilstein 4600 in the front because they ride softer
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Hey guys Bryan here and new to the group. I'm wanting a full sus lift of 3in, I have about 1200 to spend, anyone mind giving me some suggestions. It's a DD and trail rig but no real crawling so I just want a good kit for when I move to Colorado.
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I am thinking of the same setup. Are the springs still holding up nicely?

I'll probably get Bilstein 4600 in the front because they ride softer
Thatís funny stuff! 4600s and soft are not words that belong together. If you have a heavily built winch and bumper maybe.

Your a 3rz like me arenít you? Iíve had 4600s on for 100,000 km and they have never been soft or even nice. Hate them. Rattle the dash apart stiff. Im considering trying the kybs to see if the are any better. Iíd go oem except for the price.

4600s in the rear were fine however. I blame the light front end of the 3rz rig.
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