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Old 07-22-2021, 01:29 PM #16
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I'm planning to extend the coverage on the roof from the OEM rack (which ends just behind the moonroof) to go all the way to the front of the roof.
Diy: Oem style full length roof rack

Just FYI, you can extend the OEM rack. Probably the Lightest possible option to get full-length coverage too.
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I'm planning to extend the coverage on the roof from the OEM rack (which ends just behind the moonroof) to go all the way to the front of the roof.

With the OEM rails, my Roofnest Condor XL hangs with no support 24.5 inches in front of the front cross bar. This is well within the engineering specs, which call for no more than 30 inches of overhang. I would just feel better knowing that the support is there. It also gives me more options in the future if I move the tent to an off-road trailer in the future.

A full rack like the ones made by Prinsu or Sherpa use the same holes that the OEM rack does and will give me cross bars all the way to the front. That will support the front part of the tent and also allow me to put some very light items on the front of the rack. I'm thinking of something like a set of Max Trax or a couple of Alu Boxes with lightweight soft shackles and/or clothing, pillows, etc. I may also mount some lights on the rack.

I'm not a fan of carrying much on a roof, since it raises my center of gravity. The tent weighs 160 lbs and the Prinsu/Sherpa rack weighs 50 lbs. That puts me at over 210 lbs on the roof and probably 250 with anything else up there. That would be a compromise I make for some convenience.
Does sherpa/prinsu racks mount to the vehicle using the two main OEM roof rack rails or do you remove all of the OEM roof rack system?
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Does sherpa/prinsu racks mount to the vehicle using the two main OEM roof rack rails or do you remove all of the OEM roof rack system?

Sherpa's bolt into the longitudinal factory tracks using the factory capture nuts.

Who else but TtTM's excellent video: Link below starts where this is shown

Sherpa Equipment Co. Matterhorn Roof Rack Installation on a 3rd Gen Toyota 4Runner - YouTube
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Diy: Oem style full length roof rack

Just FYI, you can extend the OEM rack. Probably the Lightest possible option to get full-length coverage too.
What a very cool mod! I wish I had known about this, when I got mine about 14 years ago. That would have saved me 14 years of cussing about a damned 4' long (not wide) rack, when 6'+ is possible, when I was carrying a 16' canoe up there. Or an 8' L sheet of plywood, unable to get up to highway speed because of too much unsupported length flapping around.

However, keep in mind while carrying loads up there - every bit of the load is supported only by the sheet metal on the roof. I saw that yesterday when I was screwing around with making a crossbar extender to help with canoe/kayak loading on mine. I pulled out the extender, pulled down on it to simulate a load, and the track on the other side of the roof was lifting up noticeably, probably about ready to rip out the mounts in the sheet metal. The roof sheet metal was just flexing upward with it. That tells me that there is nothing structural under the rack.
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Had mine off recently- it is light... I'd guess about 15 lbs.
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I have one sitting in the car port waiting to be painted.

just went and took it, thing is light.

I'd say 15 lbs, by feeling it. Definitely not 25-30 lbs like I quickly read above.

edit: went out with my scale. 13 lbs.


The OP question was answered accurately in an edit. ^^
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What a very cool mod! I wish I had known about this, when I got mine about 14 years ago. That would have saved me 14 years of cussing about a damned 4' long (not wide) rack, when 6'+ is possible, when I was carrying a 16' canoe up there. Or an 8' L sheet of plywood, unable to get up to highway speed because of too much unsupported length flapping around.

However, keep in mind while carrying loads up there - every bit of the load is supported only by the sheet metal on the roof. I saw that yesterday when I was screwing around with making a crossbar extender to help with canoe/kayak loading on mine. I pulled out the extender, pulled down on it to simulate a load, and the track on the other side of the roof was lifting up noticeably, probably about ready to rip out the mounts in the sheet metal. The roof sheet metal was just flexing upward with it. That tells me that there is nothing structural under the rack.
The other issue - the roof curves, so you can't hold flat material across 3 or 4 load bars on the roof.

My dream setup is extended OEM roof tracks (I have those parts) with extra strengthening material underneath (fender washers or metal strap, depending on what fits) and a RMR Matterhorn rack on top, bolted down in the front (instead of just resting on pressure pads).

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