11-20-2023, 09:49 AM
|
#1
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Georgia
Posts: 1,328
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Georgia
Posts: 1,328
|
Can our reflector housings handle 100 watts?
I found out that Koito (Japanese bulb maker) makes some H4 bulbs that are 100/90 watt and I wanted to look into making the switch for some better OEM housing light. (Just not a fan of projectors and all that fancy stuff)
Now, I did read that the stock wiring harness isn't going to handle that power, so I was going to order one of those plug-n-play harnesses that uses the OEM one as the relay trigger. However, I cannot find anything about whether or not the actual reflector and housing can handle 100 watts. Do we have any information on that? Id rather not melt the reflector... Haha
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
11-20-2023, 11:07 AM
|
#2
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: Beaverton
Posts: 313
|
|
Member
Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: Beaverton
Posts: 313
|
This was recommended in a thread:
Amazon.com
Amazon.com
I put these items on a wishlist. I can't remember what thread it was... I'll take a look at my Likes and see if I can find the post/thread.
EDIT: The Likes only go back a month or so. I guess the forum doesn't store that stuff like they do the Quotes.
__________________
2000 4Runner SR5 Manual Trans Federal Emissions - Eibach Pro-Truck coilovers, LC 7.5/Tokico Black, JBA UCA, SPC 25945 RLLs, Mevotech Supreme RULs, TrakMotive Xtended Travel CV Axles TO-8043ET, South Bend Rally Clutch, ES & Whiteline Bushings, MagnaFlow Cat-Back, Deck-Plate Mod, 4.56 Yukon Gears, Yukon Grizzly Rear Locker, Bushwacker Flares, 16x8 Wheels w/ 285/75 General Grabber AT2, 229K+ Miles
Last edited by Zhehan; 11-20-2023 at 11:10 AM.
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
11-20-2023, 11:18 AM
|
#3
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2021
Posts: 317
|
|
Member
Join Date: Aug 2021
Posts: 317
|
I recommend you have a look at VLEDS led H4 bulbs. Super high quality, significant improvement in lighting, and no worries about wiring or melting anything. They started a 30% off sale today too.
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
11-20-2023, 11:21 AM
|
#4
|
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Ontario
Posts: 424
|
|
Member
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Ontario
Posts: 424
|
Thats what I did, note my review and others though as the harness needed to be rebuilt. I was also concerned about the heat, they do get very hot, no problems yet, but i rarely drive at night, do not have DRL's, I used 100/80Hellas, and cooler climate. I also have fogs anytime and with high beam mod which is nice.
__________________
99' Ltd E-locker grey wired, 4R Bilstein 5100, 99 tall coils, 906 OME & 1.5" spacers, 2015 4R Trail Edition 275/70R17, 1" RB BL
97' SR5 E-locker grey wired, Warn winch, 2" RB BL, Sonoran Steel 1.2 lift, dual battery, 1000W inverter, Hydraulic Arctic plow, 12" x 33" Baja Claw
92' Eclipse GSX AWD 6/4 bolt combo, 28 PSI boost, Meth injection, 750cc injectors, FMIC, 2.5" IC piping, full 3" exhaust, 350AWHP, lowered, Alum flywheel, 6 puck Clutch, Cams, JDM gear set,VC rear diff, EPROM ECU
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
11-20-2023, 11:33 AM
|
#5
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Hot Springs, AR
Posts: 4,410
Real Name: Patrick
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Hot Springs, AR
Posts: 4,410
Real Name: Patrick
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Malcolm99
Thats what I did, note my review and others though as the harness needed to be rebuilt. I was also concerned about the heat, they do get very hot, no problems yet, but i rarely drive at night, do not have DRL's, I used 100/80Hellas, and cooler climate. I also have fogs anytime and with high beam mod which is nice.
|
I couldn't find your review on Amazon. What did you have to rebuild on them?
__________________
2000 SR5 V6 Manual 4WD https://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-g...biography.html
2000 Limited V6 Auto E-Locker Sold 3/2022
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
11-20-2023, 11:48 AM
|
#6
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Georgia
Posts: 1,328
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Georgia
Posts: 1,328
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by hoppyjr
I recommend you have a look at VLEDS led H4 bulbs. Super high quality, significant improvement in lighting, and no worries about wiring or melting anything. They started a 30% off sale today too.
|
I'm not a fan of LED's at all; especially for an older rig. Plus, unless those are special or something...putting an LED bulb in a reflector housing will blind everyone.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Malcolm99
Thats what I did, note my review and others though as the harness needed to be rebuilt. I was also concerned about the heat, they do get very hot, no problems yet, but i rarely drive at night, do not have DRL's, I used 100/80Hellas, and cooler climate. I also have fogs anytime and with high beam mod which is nice.
|
I saw some folks saying the temperature increase was about 20-30 degrees F, but I've no idea if that is a lot or not and that was on a 2nd gen taco.
So, did you burn out the stock wiring? Or did you use a harness and your stock wiring still messed up? Sorry I just don't follow.
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
11-20-2023, 12:19 PM
|
#7
|
Elite Member
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Stouchsburg PA
Posts: 5,304
|
|
Elite Member
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Stouchsburg PA
Posts: 5,304
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by jross20
I'm not a fan of LED's at all; especially for an older rig. Plus, unless those are special or something...putting an LED bulb in a reflector housing will blind everyone.
|
So will putting 100/80 or 100/90 bulbs……
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
11-20-2023, 01:33 PM
|
#8
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Georgia
Posts: 1,328
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Georgia
Posts: 1,328
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by 19963.4lsr5
So will putting 100/80 or 100/90 bulbs……
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
|
Why so? I've never heard of halogens causing glare in reflector housings if they are aimed properly. I mean I guess if you did 500 watts maybe it would.
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
11-20-2023, 02:18 PM
|
#10
|
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Nor Cal
Posts: 88
|
|
Member
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Nor Cal
Posts: 88
|
I've been running the Hella H4 80/100W bulbs (with harness) for about 6 months and my housings are fine. No noticeable wear, no melting or tarnishing of the reflector. I think you should be good to make the upgrade.
__________________
'99 Limited, 260k
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
11-20-2023, 11:20 PM
|
#11
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Georgia
Posts: 1,328
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Georgia
Posts: 1,328
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by prybar
I've been running the Hella H4 80/100W bulbs (with harness) for about 6 months and my housings are fine. No noticeable wear, no melting or tarnishing of the reflector. I think you should be good to make the upgrade.
|
That's good to know. How is the output?
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
11-21-2023, 12:03 AM
|
#12
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2021
Posts: 317
|
|
Member
Join Date: Aug 2021
Posts: 317
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by jross20
I'm not a fan of LED's at all; especially for an older rig. Plus, unless those are special or something...putting an LED bulb in a reflector housing will blind everyone.
|
Actually not true, provided it’s a well designed LED and the headlamp is properly aimed. One of the reasons I use VLED’s is because they design them to have the led chips firing at the correct place on the bulb, the same place even with where the filament would be on a halogen bulb. This ensures the light distribution into the reflector is optimized. I can’t speak to the cheap stuff.
That said, I’m sure you’ll find a good halogen solution.
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
11-21-2023, 09:07 AM
|
#13
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Hot Springs, AR
Posts: 4,410
Real Name: Patrick
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Hot Springs, AR
Posts: 4,410
Real Name: Patrick
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by hoppyjr
Actually not true, provided it’s a well designed LED and the headlamp is properly aimed. One of the reasons I use VLED’s is because they design them to have the led chips firing at the correct place on the bulb, the same place even with where the filament would be on a halogen bulb. This ensures the light distribution into the reflector is optimized. I can’t speak to the cheap stuff.
That said, I’m sure you’ll find a good halogen solution.
|
I have yet to come across another vehicle with led bulbs in a halogen housing that had a good pattern/cutoff and didn't blind everyone on the road. There's a reason auto manufacturers aren't putting led bulbs in halogen housings. Halogen housings are for halogen bulbs. Projector housings can be used with any bulb type provided they were designed for the heat output of the bulb.
__________________
2000 SR5 V6 Manual 4WD https://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-g...biography.html
2000 Limited V6 Auto E-Locker Sold 3/2022
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
11-21-2023, 12:16 PM
|
#14
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: May 2015
Location: north east of Fairbank out there in the frontiers Alaska
Posts: 3,156
Real Name: 3 Bears
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2015
Location: north east of Fairbank out there in the frontiers Alaska
Posts: 3,156
Real Name: 3 Bears
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed_C
|
thanks for those links...... very informative
__________________
2000 SR-5 Highlander version 4:30's, factory locker , green, bought 6/21
2001 SR-5... bought 11/20..sold 6/21....
2000 SR-5 moded, lifted, e locker, other cool stuff, totaled 10/20
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
11-21-2023, 12:47 PM
|
#15
|
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Nor Cal
Posts: 88
|
|
Member
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Nor Cal
Posts: 88
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by jross20
That's good to know. How is the output?
|
It's so much better than stock. It used to be sketchy driving down dark roads at night, but now I can see everything. Highbeams are super bright too. Beam pattern should be about the same too, which you don't get with LED's. I've recommended this upgrade to just about everyone I know.
One thing though - if you turn off your truck and leave the lights on, it drains the battery pretty quick due to the increased wattage.
Overall, the best headlight upgrade for the money IMO.
__________________
'99 Limited, 260k
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
Thread Tools |
|
Display Modes |
Rate This Thread |
Linear Mode
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is On
|
|
|
|