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Old 11-07-2021, 03:30 PM #1
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(4xInnovations) Sliders Clearance Solution

When I went to install my 4xI sliders I ran into an issue with them being extremely close to the rocker panels, and after some research I saw a couple people here and there posting the same issue. After a little thinking I came up with a solution that I wanted to post for anyone in the future that also comes across this issue. Note that this is effectively the long way of doing things, all this could simply be avoiding by bending the rocker panel pinch weld or having a 1in body lift - however I personally didn't want to risk damaging my rockers more than I already have, and I already have two bumpers installed that wouldn't work with a body lift... so if you're in a similar boat you'll probably find options are limited.

So what I found is when using the provided legs with how 4xI sent them (one flat end, one 15 degrees, about 6in at it's longest) I found even with everything as low on the frame as it could possibly go the sliders were sitting awfully close; I'm talking 1/8th inch at absolute most and a hair at it's worst. I really wanted mine kicked up 15 degrees as opposed to sitting flat and eventually after a bunch of playing around, I came to the conclusion it just wouldn't be possible with the provided pieces - it seemed like they were just a bit short but even if they were just a little longer you'd still be cutting it too close for comfort (and also have them start sticking out too far), so my answer was to not only lengthen them but notch the other end as well at double the opposing angle. This way it can save on space, avoid the rockers panels more comfortably and give you the same overall look.
To help visualize what I'm talking about I've made a diagram showing what I'm describing with colored markings. I've also attached some pictures below of the final result, though I couldn't get a good shot trying to compare the original vs new legs. Too hard to hold the camera steady, hold your neck up and keep a steady piece against the sliders all at once
To do this I went out to a local metal supplier and bought 6 new pieces of 2x0.125" square tubing (I have the square main tube option), and had them cut these pieces to 7in each. On each of these pieces, starting as close to the end as possible I notched one side at 15 degrees then notched the opposing corner at 30 degrees in the same direction. You want to make a parallelogram here, not a trapezoid. It is important to match your line as closely with the corner as possible to minimize material loss, as doing these notches will give you a midsection that's roughly 0.5in longer than before (the midsection will now measure right around 6in, as opposed to it's longest point.) I helped mark what I'm talking about in both grey and green. Your metal supplier may or may not be able to notch them for you, but how well you trust them to do a good job is totally on you. I would personally save this part for myself just to ensure it's consistent.
The side with the lesser angle will go towards the frame, the legs will kick away from the body, then the greater angle will bring the sliders back up 15 degrees. However this means you'll need new gussets now to compensate for the greater angle. This can very easily be done by copying the corner I've marked in red with a piece of cardboard and using that to shape it out of a steel plate - 1/4in is ideal and very easily available.
The face at the 30 degree side is now slightly longer than 2in and must be filled in. Either use some steel to weld in the gap (I used a 14GA sheet), or attempt to add some relief cuts to the tube so it can be pounded and welded into shape. If you decide to weld in a piece you might find it easier to remove some metal to make the gap less awkward and cleaner looking
Now you should be ready to mock up and have much, MUCH more space to work with in every regard and a lot more options on how you can fab everything all together - both in regards to where the legs sit on the plate and where the plates sit on the frame, all while giving you more clearance. In theory this is also a structurally stronger design and even when the sliders are flexing you should still retain better clearance; if you were to take a spine-breaking wallop like in 4xI's testing video, at absolute worst the legs will come up parallel with the rocker panels instead of levering directly into them. To boot, with these new legs the sliders don't stick out any further than they would originally. Theoretically if you were to add another leg+foot to each side it would be even stronger.
Like I said, I have the square tube option; so if you have the round tube/legs it might not be as simple but should be very easy if you have a basic chop saw, as most have settings for 10-30 degrees already.
I still lined my plates up with the bottom of the frame and clearance between the pinch weld and main tube is about 1/2in, which is more than a healthy amount. Ignore the bolts I have going through the feet, they were just to help keep things steady while installing. And ignore the overspray of course
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Wow, great looking finished product! I cannot believe your rocker panels are still there! To live outside the rust belt!
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