01-24-2022, 05:15 PM
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I’m not sorry. F%*k a danna 44. Complete waste of time. Cut out ifs to put an inferior piece of garbage like a Dana 44 in the front. You people are idiots😀
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It'd be helpful if you contributed with a few options that you find to be superior to the D44 axle. Someone doing research down the road would probably appreciate that a bit more than just that comment.
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01-24-2022, 05:19 PM
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Throwing a locker in the front of our stock diffs is a better upgrade than a Dana 44. If you think a d44 is a good option you are a moron
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01-24-2022, 05:56 PM
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Throwing a locker in the front of our stock diffs is a better upgrade than a Dana 44. If you think a d44 is a good option you are a moron
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The ifs in the front of these truck uses a 7.5" ring gear and 27 spline axles. They're tiny. Add to that the ball joints, spindles, steering, and control arms are puny compared to literally any solid axle components out there.
A Dana 44 uses an 8.5" ring and up to 32 spline axles. The ifs can't hold a candle to it lol. Dana 44 may not be the end all be all of strength but they did come in 3/4 ton pickups and are by far more robust than the ifs Toyota used.
Add to that if nothing else. The solid axle articulates completely different than the ifs and is far more stable in the rocks
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01-24-2022, 07:08 PM
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I would use a front axle out of a Ford F-250 superduty which is a D60 and get a shave kit. D44 is nonsense.
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01-24-2022, 07:09 PM
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And I agree that ifs sucks but if you’re going to cut it out why waste time with a shitty d44
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01-24-2022, 08:00 PM
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And I agree that ifs sucks but if you’re going to cut it out why waste time with a shitty d44
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Have to use what I have available. Also it was FREE.
Makes zero sense to use a Toyota rear and Dana 60 front. Don’t want the weight either.
Not sure where anyone asked what your opinion on DANA 44 or IFS. You must be one with a 6k IFS setup.
Appreciate the helpful insight.
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01-24-2022, 08:17 PM
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Honestly, everyone has their own opinions on what they put under their rigs. I was going with tons, but I didn’t want the width and I didn’t want to shorten the axles. I also didn’t have intentions of putting a d44 up front. Because I daily this truck I decided to keep it all Toyota. Also, because I love genuine Toyota parts.
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01-24-2022, 09:03 PM
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I would use a front axle out of a Ford F-250 superduty which is a D60 and get a shave kit. D44 is nonsense.
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Yeah bro I'm totally sure your 4000lb car with a n/a V6 from 1996 that puts out 100-150hp these days is totally gonna warrant the extra strength and enjoy the extra weight of a D60 
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01-24-2022, 09:12 PM
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And I agree that ifs sucks but if you’re going to cut it out why waste time with a shitty d44
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You just invalidated your own statement you stupid fyck, why change anything at all.
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01-24-2022, 09:15 PM
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And I definitely need the tons since I’m towing your mom behind the truck
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01-24-2022, 09:36 PM
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I am getting close to finishing up the sas on my truck. I decided to go all out and imo do it right by redoing both the front and rear suspension. I kinda went down the rabbit hole of no cutting corners on it while keeping it toyota based. But between all the parts alone I am at least 15k deep. If I start adding up all the other stuff I did to make the sas better, turbo, standalone ecu, etc I would be well over 25k into it i think. Ive done all the labor myself. What I went with was a LC 9.5 axle in the rear and a HP 8". Coilovers front and rear and all the bells and whistles.
I just sourced a HP 44. It has 8 Lug outers so now I'm working on gathering parts still.
I'm in Billings and am looking for IFS Lift Suspension parts for now. Do you have Coils or your take off stuff you want to get rid of? I won't SAS until I have everything ready to go, that may be awhile. haha
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Only thing I have left from the ifs at this point is a set of gusseted spindles and 4 spare cvs. CVS I'm selling for 40 a piece. Spindles 100 for the set. I'm over in Billings fairly often so it wouldn't be a big deal to bring anything with me if you're interested
Re reading your original post too that high pinion 44 will be able to be built plenty strong, especially if the truck is primarily used in the snow and mud. The smaller diff will also make your life way easier when you're chasing up travel and a low ride height.
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01-24-2022, 09:37 PM
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You just invalidated your own statement you stupid fyck, why change anything at all.
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Gee if I had to guess it would be for any one of the aforementioned reasons posted above you conveniently chose to ignore?
Are we being intentionally pedantic here or just lacking basic reading comprehension? You should also probably refrain from replying to yourself and calling yourself stupid if you want people to take your point seriously 
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01-24-2022, 09:38 PM
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Gee if I had to guess it would be for any one of the aforementioned reasons posted above you conveniently chose to ignore?
Are we being intentionally pedantic here or just lacking basic reading comprehension? You should also probably refrain from calling yourself stupid if you want people to take your point seriously |
All of the above? Lol
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01-25-2022, 11:47 AM
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Wow that escalated quickly……
My dream setup would be a coil over SAS, floating axles, and sitting about at 66-68” wide.
Fabbing for me isn’t a problem. The time to do all from scratch is. But if I could buy a kit that keeps it straight forward with all the right angles and geometry already engineered in, that would be a take my money now situation. Something that utilizes mostly off the shelf parts for the steering. But it doesn’t seem like this sort of thing exists.
66” at the wheels, solid full floating axles, maybe LS power, that would just be a dream to go wheeling with. Wagon space, planted, lots of horsepowers…..
Anyways, I’m going to shut up now and just watch from the sidelines at some of the cool stuff you guys build.
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01-25-2022, 01:40 PM
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And I definitely need the tons since I’m towing your mom behind the truck
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Oh, damn. Did I accidentally log on to Twitter? (and no need to attack me, I have no opinion on the matter at hand in this thread)
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