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Old 02-17-2022, 03:28 PM #16
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Thank you. This guy is selling the "tall" springs and brand new Bilstein 4600 shocks I believe. Maybe I will just go with that set up. I'm thinking since I have the baby 4runner (2wd 4cyl.) I may get a some extra height from the springs.
If they are 'old' '99 tall springs, the rear may have sagged and the front will lift your 4Runner ~1.5" It may work well for you, it may not. You also have to think about if you want slightly stiffer rear springs that don't sag when you put groceries in the back.

I put 4600's on my 4Runner with stock springs years ago when it was still my Dad's - no complaints from him. They are a bit stiffer than stock.

To answer your earlier question:
OME = Old Man Emu, an Australian brand name that makes springs for trucks/SUVs (usually designated with a 3 or 4 digit number, 880, 881, 906, etc)
OEM = Original Equipment Manufacturer, Toyota in this case.

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Thank you. This guy is selling the "tall" springs and brand new Bilstein 4600 shocks I believe. Maybe I will just go with that set up. I'm thinking since I have the baby 4runner (2wd 4cyl.) I may get a some extra height from the springs.
I agree with the above comment, I would not buy used rear coils. The front coils should be ok as they don't sag as bad the the rear can and will.
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If they are 'old' '99 tall springs, the rear may have sagged and the front will lift your 4Runner ~1.5" It may work well for you, it may not. You also have to think about if you want slightly stiffer rear springs that don't sag when you put groceries in the back.

I put 4600's on my 4Runner with stock springs years ago when it was still my Dad's - no complaints from him. They are a bit stiffer than stock.

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OME = Old Man Emu, an Australian brand name that makes springs for trucks/SUVs (usually designated with a 3 or 4 digit number, 880, 881, 906, etc)
OEM = Original Equipment Manufacturer, Toyota in this case.

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Thank you. He says they are "new" but who knows what that means?
Also, I was aware of the difference between OEM and OME, but like and idiot thought maybe it was a tyo or something, but thank you for clarifying.
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so read this 3rd Gen 4Runner Lift Information and FAQ's - Toyota 4Runner Forum - Largest 4Runner Forum

then some will go to rock auto and look up 99 4runner and get the Moog springs and match up the part numbers from the 99 talls listed in the info thread listed above to the #'s on rock auto and then get the 99 talls from rock auto, then match with shocks of your choice from what ever supplier.

However, some reports that these are not a quality spring and have short life. They do not have a left and right side like toyota and many other quality aftermarket, thus causing taco lean.
I personally have no experience with these Moogs, its just an option I have read about.

I have done the toyota talls with KYB's and was happy enough. I have done the SS 1.2 kit with billies, did a 3 inch lift, liked the ride ok

current one is a highlander, so factory "talls" on it. They are tired. so will replace but im only gonna go with just talls or maybe just a touch taller, but not 3 inch for me.
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That's pretty much the exact type of thread I was looking for. Nice info and nicely laid out, thanks.

One more stupid question about the 99 talls though...

If they gave the original 99 4Runner an inch of lift, how is it that some people are getting almost 2 inches from them? And I realize for my truck it will be different because it's much lighter.
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That's pretty much the exact type of thread I was looking for. Nice info and nicely laid out, thanks.

One more stupid question about the 99 talls though...

If they gave the original 99 4Runner an inch of lift, how is it that some people are getting almost 2 inches from them? And I realize for my truck it will be different because it's much lighter.
99's came either with the taller springs in the highlander model or not in the other models like base, SR5,limited, is my understanding.
also some years came with shorter springs. ( someplace there is a comparison chart and pics of the springs), thus making some years the car lower than others, thus depending on the year a person using 99 talls can pick up a different amount of lift depending on the year and model installed on.
for example, my 99 highlander wont gain anymore lift by installing 99 talls as that was "stock" for the highlander.
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That's pretty much the exact type of thread I was looking for. Nice info and nicely laid out, thanks.

One more stupid question about the 99 talls though...

If they gave the original 99 4Runner an inch of lift, how is it that some people are getting almost 2 inches from them? And I realize for my truck it will be different because it's much lighter.
If you are interested I can dig up some numbers for you. I have before and after measurements for my 96. Granted, I'm a 4wd 4cyl but it should be pretty similar. I went 99 tall springs on Billy 4600s so essentially what you are talking about here.
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If you are interested I can dig up some numbers for you. I have before and after measurements for my 96. Granted, I'm a 4wd 4cyl but it should be pretty similar. I went 99 tall springs on Billy 4600s so essentially what you are talking about here.
That would be amazing, thanks. Do you still have that set up currently and how do you like it? As of right now I think that's what I'm going to go with.
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That would be amazing, thanks. Do you still have that set up currently and how do you like it? As of right now I think that's what I'm going to go with.
Hi. Please see my post below. I was looking for something similar to what you are looking for. My post has part number and everything.

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...Any recs on something easy on the budget but that gives a good ride? ...
For your needs a body lift may work better if your current suspension is OK. Choose the amount, 1/2 inch to 3.

One major advantage is the center of gravity is raised by 1/3 what is is with a suspension lift allowing for better handling.

If you ever get crazy and want more lift, then a suspension lift can be added to the body lift. Luck deciding...
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I should be fine keeping the original coil?..
That depends on milage on original coils, if you're at 200k+ mi it's time for new ones if your budget can handle it.
I'll second 99's and 4600's for your application.

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Hi. Please see my post below. I was looking for something similar to what you are looking for. My post has part number and everything.

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Awesome, thank you. Those aftermarket parts seem very reasonably priced too. i like OEM but all of the sets I see for sale have almost 200k miles on em.
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I got my 5th gen springs for super cheap with only a few thousand miles on them from this forum in the classifieds. 5th gen owners with a freshly upgraded suspension will let their onld parts go for usually pretty cheap just to move them out.
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I got my 5th gen springs for super cheap with only a few thousand miles on them from this forum in the classifieds. 5th gen owners with a freshly upgraded suspension will let their onld parts go for usually pretty cheap just to move them out.
I have a set of 2010 5th gen OEM rear coils just laying here.. skyjacker engineers their coil spring rates specifically for your truck.
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