02-17-2022, 03:28 PM
|
#16
|
Elite Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Pasadena, CA
Posts: 5,414
|
|
Elite Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Pasadena, CA
Posts: 5,414
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by mymalade
Thank you. This guy is selling the "tall" springs and brand new Bilstein 4600 shocks I believe. Maybe I will just go with that set up. I'm thinking since I have the baby 4runner (2wd 4cyl.) I may get a some extra height from the springs.
|
If they are 'old' '99 tall springs, the rear may have sagged and the front will lift your 4Runner ~1.5" It may work well for you, it may not. You also have to think about if you want slightly stiffer rear springs that don't sag when you put groceries in the back.
I put 4600's on my 4Runner with stock springs years ago when it was still my Dad's - no complaints from him. They are a bit stiffer than stock.
To answer your earlier question:
OME = Old Man Emu, an Australian brand name that makes springs for trucks/SUVs (usually designated with a 3 or 4 digit number, 880, 881, 906, etc)
OEM = Original Equipment Manufacturer, Toyota in this case.
-Charlie
__________________
'99 4Runner SR5 Auto - 4WD swapped
'89 Camry Alltrac LE 3S-GTE 5spd
'17 Chevy Volt Premier
'16 Honda Odyssey Elite
Previous: '88 Camry Alltrac LE 3S-GE BEAMS, 90 Camry 3S-GTE, 90 Camry DX, '03 WRX wagon, '08 Outback XT
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
02-17-2022, 05:27 PM
|
#17
|
|
Elite Member
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Citrus Heights, California
Age: 36
Posts: 7,337
Real Name: Jerod
|
|
Elite Member
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Citrus Heights, California
Age: 36
Posts: 7,337
Real Name: Jerod
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by mymalade
Thank you. This guy is selling the "tall" springs and brand new Bilstein 4600 shocks I believe. Maybe I will just go with that set up. I'm thinking since I have the baby 4runner (2wd 4cyl.) I may get a some extra height from the springs.
|
I agree with the above comment, I would not buy used rear coils. The front coils should be ok as they don't sag as bad the the rear can and will.
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
02-18-2022, 01:00 PM
|
#18
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Socal
Posts: 177
|
|
Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Socal
Posts: 177
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by phattyduck
If they are 'old' '99 tall springs, the rear may have sagged and the front will lift your 4Runner ~1.5" It may work well for you, it may not. You also have to think about if you want slightly stiffer rear springs that don't sag when you put groceries in the back.
I put 4600's on my 4Runner with stock springs years ago when it was still my Dad's - no complaints from him. They are a bit stiffer than stock.
To answer your earlier question:
OME = Old Man Emu, an Australian brand name that makes springs for trucks/SUVs (usually designated with a 3 or 4 digit number, 880, 881, 906, etc)
OEM = Original Equipment Manufacturer, Toyota in this case.
-Charlie
|
Thank you. He says they are "new" but who knows what that means?
Also, I was aware of the difference between OEM and OME, but like and idiot thought maybe it was a tyo or something, but thank you for clarifying.
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
02-18-2022, 02:47 PM
|
#19
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: May 2015
Location: north east of Fairbank out there in the frontiers Alaska
Posts: 3,167
Real Name: 3 Bears
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2015
Location: north east of Fairbank out there in the frontiers Alaska
Posts: 3,167
Real Name: 3 Bears
|
so read this 3rd Gen 4Runner Lift Information and FAQ's - Toyota 4Runner Forum - Largest 4Runner Forum
then some will go to rock auto and look up 99 4runner and get the Moog springs and match up the part numbers from the 99 talls listed in the info thread listed above to the #'s on rock auto and then get the 99 talls from rock auto, then match with shocks of your choice from what ever supplier.
However, some reports that these are not a quality spring and have short life. They do not have a left and right side like toyota and many other quality aftermarket, thus causing taco lean.
I personally have no experience with these Moogs, its just an option I have read about.
I have done the toyota talls with KYB's and was happy enough. I have done the SS 1.2 kit with billies, did a 3 inch lift, liked the ride ok
current one is a highlander, so factory "talls" on it. They are tired. so will replace but im only gonna go with just talls or maybe just a touch taller, but not 3 inch for me.
__________________
2000 SR-5 Highlander version 4:30's, factory locker , green, bought 6/21
2001 SR-5... bought 11/20..sold 6/21....
2000 SR-5 moded, lifted, e locker, other cool stuff, totaled 10/20
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
02-18-2022, 04:01 PM
|
#20
|
|
Elite Member
|
|
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 5,154
Real Name: C8H18 Mike
|
|
Elite Member
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 5,154
Real Name: C8H18 Mike
|
That's a good thread, read the first post
Sent from my Pixel 4 XL using Tapatalk
__________________
.
1999 Toyota 4Runner SR5 Sport 4WD, V6 5-Speed e-Locker-> 4WD 4runner Journal Thread
1999 Toyota 4Runner SR5 Un-Sported 2WD, V6 Auto -> 2WD 4runner Journal Thread
1959 Chevy 3100 1/2 Ton Pickup EVERYTHING done 'cept paint and body
.
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
02-19-2022, 12:05 AM
|
#21
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Socal
Posts: 177
|
|
Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Socal
Posts: 177
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by octanejunkie
That's a good thread, read the first post
Sent from my Pixel 4 XL using Tapatalk
|
That's pretty much the exact type of thread I was looking for. Nice info and nicely laid out, thanks.
One more stupid question about the 99 talls though...
If they gave the original 99 4Runner an inch of lift, how is it that some people are getting almost 2 inches from them? And I realize for my truck it will be different because it's much lighter.
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
02-19-2022, 12:49 AM
|
#22
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: May 2015
Location: north east of Fairbank out there in the frontiers Alaska
Posts: 3,167
Real Name: 3 Bears
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2015
Location: north east of Fairbank out there in the frontiers Alaska
Posts: 3,167
Real Name: 3 Bears
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by mymalade
That's pretty much the exact type of thread I was looking for. Nice info and nicely laid out, thanks.
One more stupid question about the 99 talls though...
If they gave the original 99 4Runner an inch of lift, how is it that some people are getting almost 2 inches from them? And I realize for my truck it will be different because it's much lighter.
|
99's came either with the taller springs in the highlander model or not in the other models like base, SR5,limited, is my understanding.
also some years came with shorter springs. ( someplace there is a comparison chart and pics of the springs), thus making some years the car lower than others, thus depending on the year a person using 99 talls can pick up a different amount of lift depending on the year and model installed on.
for example, my 99 highlander wont gain anymore lift by installing 99 talls as that was "stock" for the highlander.
__________________
2000 SR-5 Highlander version 4:30's, factory locker , green, bought 6/21
2001 SR-5... bought 11/20..sold 6/21....
2000 SR-5 moded, lifted, e locker, other cool stuff, totaled 10/20
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
02-19-2022, 01:06 PM
|
#23
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Yukon
Posts: 1,317
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Yukon
Posts: 1,317
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by mymalade
That's pretty much the exact type of thread I was looking for. Nice info and nicely laid out, thanks.
One more stupid question about the 99 talls though...
If they gave the original 99 4Runner an inch of lift, how is it that some people are getting almost 2 inches from them? And I realize for my truck it will be different because it's much lighter.
|
If you are interested I can dig up some numbers for you. I have before and after measurements for my 96. Granted, I'm a 4wd 4cyl but it should be pretty similar. I went 99 tall springs on Billy 4600s so essentially what you are talking about here.
__________________
-1996 4Runner. 3RZ 5-Spd. 4x4 Base model. OME2906/Toyota OEM rears with 2004 Tacoma Dual Rate Fronts on Bilstien 4600s.
-1993 Corolla Wagon 7AFE
-2001 Echo D.D.
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
02-19-2022, 01:44 PM
|
#24
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Socal
Posts: 177
|
|
Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Socal
Posts: 177
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanoe
If you are interested I can dig up some numbers for you. I have before and after measurements for my 96. Granted, I'm a 4wd 4cyl but it should be pretty similar. I went 99 tall springs on Billy 4600s so essentially what you are talking about here.
|
That would be amazing, thanks. Do you still have that set up currently and how do you like it? As of right now I think that's what I'm going to go with.
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
02-19-2022, 02:20 PM
|
#25
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: NJ Pine Barrens
Posts: 107
|
|
Member
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: NJ Pine Barrens
Posts: 107
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by mymalade
That would be amazing, thanks. Do you still have that set up currently and how do you like it? As of right now I think that's what I'm going to go with.
|
Hi. Please see my post below. I was looking for something similar to what you are looking for. My post has part number and everything.
My minor lift with pictures and part numbers:
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
02-20-2022, 04:25 AM
|
#26
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 3,151
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 3,151
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by mymalade
...Any recs on something easy on the budget but that gives a good ride? ...
|
For your needs a body lift may work better if your current suspension is OK. Choose the amount, 1/2 inch to 3.
One major advantage is the center of gravity is raised by 1/3 what is is with a suspension lift allowing for better handling.
If you ever get crazy and want more lift, then a suspension lift can be added to the body lift. Luck deciding...
__________________
2001 Limited 4WD - 346+K - SunfireRed\Thunder Cloud; - 265/75/16 Michelin A/T2s - Fat Pat's 1.5" BL - StopTech ANGLED rotors - In series 699 trans cooler, New Yota1 transmission, All new OEM suspension front to rear.
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
02-20-2022, 12:34 PM
|
#27
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: MS
Posts: 2,508
Real Name: Mark
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: MS
Posts: 2,508
Real Name: Mark
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by mymalade
I should be fine keeping the original coil?..
|
That depends on milage on original coils, if you're at 200k+ mi it's time for new ones if your budget can handle it.
I'll second 99's and 4600's for your application.
Last edited by 96RedRunner; 02-20-2022 at 12:37 PM.
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
02-21-2022, 04:01 PM
|
#28
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Socal
Posts: 177
|
|
Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Socal
Posts: 177
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by NJ-4Runner
|
Awesome, thank you. Those aftermarket parts seem very reasonably priced too. i like OEM but all of the sets I see for sale have almost 200k miles on em.
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
02-22-2022, 08:43 PM
|
#29
|
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: Paducah, KY
Posts: 146
|
|
Member
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: Paducah, KY
Posts: 146
|
I got my 5th gen springs for super cheap with only a few thousand miles on them from this forum in the classifieds. 5th gen owners with a freshly upgraded suspension will let their onld parts go for usually pretty cheap just to move them out.
__________________
98 Limited - 2010 Triumph Daytona - 2017 GTI
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
02-22-2022, 08:58 PM
|
#30
|
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: Fayetteville AR
Posts: 776
|
|
Member
Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: Fayetteville AR
Posts: 776
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by itskohler
I got my 5th gen springs for super cheap with only a few thousand miles on them from this forum in the classifieds. 5th gen owners with a freshly upgraded suspension will let their onld parts go for usually pretty cheap just to move them out.
|
I have a set of 2010 5th gen OEM rear coils just laying here.. skyjacker engineers their coil spring rates specifically for your truck.
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is On
|
|
|
|