User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 03-08-2022, 05:13 PM #1
audiness's Avatar
audiness audiness is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Charleston SC
Posts: 1,196
audiness will become famous soon enough
audiness audiness is offline
Senior Member
audiness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Charleston SC
Posts: 1,196
audiness will become famous soon enough
2000 Limited 4x4 Manual Transmission Conversion

This thread is to document my 2000 Limited 4X4 e-locker Automatic to manual conversion. I will be swapping a manual transmission from a 1999 SR5 4x4. I hope to keep the Limited digital climate control and limited rear e-locker working with this build.

Background: I have had this 4Runner for 10 years now. I bought it with 100k miles and it has about 160k miles now. It is not my daily driver, this is a weekend / adventure rig.

The story: I have daydreamed about doing this swap for a long time. i Know the only way to do this job 100% is to have a donor truck. I also know there are some nuances in the 99/00 model years, so my donor truck needed to be a 1999 or 2000 4x4. I started looking for a donor truck, and after about 6 months of looking, i finally found a low mile rust-free one for a somewhat reasonable price.

The Plan: I bought a wrecked 1999 SR5 from Copart for $1900. Shipping from TX to SC and ripoff storage fees from Copart cost most nearly $1000. So now with taxes, I am over $3k, and that doesn't included all the parts I will need. I actually drove the donor truck about 5 miles from where i picked it up to my house. other than broken glass flying all over the place, it drove fine. Once I got it home and had a bit of fun with it, I pulled the engine from the donor truck (which still ran perfectly) engine wiring harness, ECU, transmission, pedals, lines, and all the interior bits that I needed to do the swap.

I sold off some parts including the engine, wheels, and other misc from the donor truck and made back almost $1000. The donor truck was then sent to the scrapyard.

Over the past few months, I began to acquire all the new OEM parts i would need: New OEM Flywheel, Clutch, Pressure plate, slave cylinder, lots of gaskets, flywheel bolts, etc. I only use 100% Toyota OEM parts. Do it right, do it once. finally ready to begin!

I plan to use the SR5 transfer case and give up on the pushbutton selectable transfer case that's on my 2000 Limited. I think the more manual the better.
Attached Images
2000 Limited 4x4 Manual Transmission Conversion-img_9297-jpg  2000 Limited 4x4 Manual Transmission Conversion-img_9231-jpg  2000 Limited 4x4 Manual Transmission Conversion-img_9250-jpg  2000 Limited 4x4 Manual Transmission Conversion-unnamed-jpg 

Last edited by audiness; 04-29-2022 at 10:36 AM.
audiness is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 03-08-2022, 05:13 PM #2
audiness's Avatar
audiness audiness is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Charleston SC
Posts: 1,196
audiness will become famous soon enough
audiness audiness is offline
Senior Member
audiness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Charleston SC
Posts: 1,196
audiness will become famous soon enough
Started by laying out all the parts and trying to get a sense of where to start. I decided to start with the Brake Pedal, clutch Pedal, and Clutch Master Cylinder install. I created a template to try and get the holes drilled in the firewall in the right place.
Attached Images
2000 Limited 4x4 Manual Transmission Conversion-unnamed-1-jpg  2000 Limited 4x4 Manual Transmission Conversion-unnamed-2-jpg  2000 Limited 4x4 Manual Transmission Conversion-unnamed-3-jpg 

Last edited by audiness; 03-08-2022 at 05:50 PM.
audiness is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 03-08-2022, 05:16 PM #3
audiness's Avatar
audiness audiness is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Charleston SC
Posts: 1,196
audiness will become famous soon enough
audiness audiness is offline
Senior Member
audiness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Charleston SC
Posts: 1,196
audiness will become famous soon enough
The most nerve wracking part is done, i now have an appropriately sized hole in my firewall , and we now have 3 pedals boys!
Attached Images
2000 Limited 4x4 Manual Transmission Conversion-unnamed-4-jpg  2000 Limited 4x4 Manual Transmission Conversion-unnamed-5-jpg  2000 Limited 4x4 Manual Transmission Conversion-unnamed-6-jpg 

Last edited by audiness; 03-09-2022 at 05:56 PM.
audiness is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 03-08-2022, 05:17 PM #4
audiness's Avatar
audiness audiness is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Charleston SC
Posts: 1,196
audiness will become famous soon enough
audiness audiness is offline
Senior Member
audiness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Charleston SC
Posts: 1,196
audiness will become famous soon enough
Got the wiring harness out. The manual harness is on the left, auto on the right. They are identical except for the transmission plugs.
Attached Images
2000 Limited 4x4 Manual Transmission Conversion-img_3858-jpg  2000 Limited 4x4 Manual Transmission Conversion-img_3859-jpg  2000 Limited 4x4 Manual Transmission Conversion-wire_harness-jpg 

Last edited by audiness; 04-01-2022 at 03:51 PM.
audiness is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 03-08-2022, 05:17 PM #5
audiness's Avatar
audiness audiness is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Charleston SC
Posts: 1,196
audiness will become famous soon enough
audiness audiness is offline
Senior Member
audiness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Charleston SC
Posts: 1,196
audiness will become famous soon enough
prepping for the auto trans to come out !
Attached Images
2000 Limited 4x4 Manual Transmission Conversion-img_3863-jpg  2000 Limited 4x4 Manual Transmission Conversion-img_3861-jpg  2000 Limited 4x4 Manual Transmission Conversion-img_3866-jpg  2000 Limited 4x4 Manual Transmission Conversion-img_3874-jpg 

Last edited by audiness; 03-24-2022 at 02:30 PM.
audiness is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 03-08-2022, 05:45 PM #6
audiness's Avatar
audiness audiness is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Charleston SC
Posts: 1,196
audiness will become famous soon enough
audiness audiness is offline
Senior Member
audiness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Charleston SC
Posts: 1,196
audiness will become famous soon enough
Something that is causing the project to take much longer than expected.
I am replacing many coolant, PCV, and Vacuum lines in the engine bay. much easier now while the intake manifold is off. Also replaced the heater valve, although the 21 year old one was in surprisingly good condition. Thankfully all these OEM parts are still available, and I was able to take advantage of a March promotion for 25% off OEM parts from Southeast Toyota Dealers.

this is a lower-mileage truck ~160k miles. Cheapish-insurance down the road
Attached Images
2000 Limited 4x4 Manual Transmission Conversion-img_4140-jpg 

Last edited by audiness; 04-01-2022 at 03:46 PM.
audiness is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 03-08-2022, 06:57 PM #7
eimkeith's Avatar
eimkeith eimkeith is offline
Official Vendor
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 1,471
eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light
eimkeith eimkeith is offline
Official Vendor
eimkeith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 1,471
eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light
subscribed! I just got a 2wd 2000; am planning to do the same!
__________________
keith
eimkeith.com
all product descriptions © eimkeith LLC 2016-2023
eimkeith is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 03-09-2022, 10:33 AM #8
Bad Luck Bad Luck is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Hot Springs, AR
Posts: 4,410
Real Name: Patrick
Bad Luck has a reputation beyond repute Bad Luck has a reputation beyond repute Bad Luck has a reputation beyond repute Bad Luck has a reputation beyond repute Bad Luck has a reputation beyond repute Bad Luck has a reputation beyond repute Bad Luck has a reputation beyond repute Bad Luck has a reputation beyond repute Bad Luck has a reputation beyond repute Bad Luck has a reputation beyond repute Bad Luck has a reputation beyond repute
Bad Luck Bad Luck is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Hot Springs, AR
Posts: 4,410
Real Name: Patrick
Bad Luck has a reputation beyond repute Bad Luck has a reputation beyond repute Bad Luck has a reputation beyond repute Bad Luck has a reputation beyond repute Bad Luck has a reputation beyond repute Bad Luck has a reputation beyond repute Bad Luck has a reputation beyond repute Bad Luck has a reputation beyond repute Bad Luck has a reputation beyond repute Bad Luck has a reputation beyond repute Bad Luck has a reputation beyond repute
Have you got a plan on how to get around the immobilizer on the 2000 Limited 4Runner? If you swap ecu's the immobilizer codes won't match up and you won't be able to start it. I haven't seen any good solutions to getting around that yet.

EDIT: I thought the transponder key amplifier did more than it actually did. Phattyduck is right about swapping ecu's won't be an issue.
__________________
2000 SR5 V6 Manual 4WD https://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-g...biography.html
2000 Limited V6 Auto E-Locker Sold 3/2022

Last edited by Bad Luck; 03-09-2022 at 02:34 PM. Reason: Added Info
Bad Luck is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 03-09-2022, 11:37 AM #9
G_Raw's Avatar
G_Raw G_Raw is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Making my way to the sticks
Posts: 442
G_Raw has a spectacular aura about G_Raw has a spectacular aura about
G_Raw G_Raw is offline
Member
G_Raw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Making my way to the sticks
Posts: 442
G_Raw has a spectacular aura about G_Raw has a spectacular aura about
Suggested solution to the above. Pull the light bulb from the dash cluster for neutral. Then splice all trans auto trans wires in harness to stock ECU to neutral signal. This way the ECU will always think the vehicle is in neutral and will not try to run shift points for you. It will not affect idling. And since you are manually shifting it obviously shifts when you do. This will avoid the ECU issue and check engine light issue. Obviously you remove the neutral bulb from dash cluster cause that would be irritating to stare at all the time.

Then you can either be upfront with someone or sell off the Manual ECU to someone who doesn't know what their doing with their conversion and they'll have to cross the bridge of paying someone to reflash that thing when the realize the issue...
__________________
99 Limited: 4wd conversion, OME 883/891, Built Right UCAs, Armored and winch up front, 285's with 4.88s and dual locked.
G_Raw is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 03-09-2022, 02:06 PM #10
phattyduck phattyduck is offline
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Pasadena, CA
Posts: 5,409
phattyduck has a reputation beyond repute phattyduck has a reputation beyond repute phattyduck has a reputation beyond repute phattyduck has a reputation beyond repute phattyduck has a reputation beyond repute phattyduck has a reputation beyond repute phattyduck has a reputation beyond repute phattyduck has a reputation beyond repute phattyduck has a reputation beyond repute phattyduck has a reputation beyond repute phattyduck has a reputation beyond repute
phattyduck phattyduck is offline
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Pasadena, CA
Posts: 5,409
phattyduck has a reputation beyond repute phattyduck has a reputation beyond repute phattyduck has a reputation beyond repute phattyduck has a reputation beyond repute phattyduck has a reputation beyond repute phattyduck has a reputation beyond repute phattyduck has a reputation beyond repute phattyduck has a reputation beyond repute phattyduck has a reputation beyond repute phattyduck has a reputation beyond repute phattyduck has a reputation beyond repute
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bad Luck View Post
Have you got a plan on how to get around the immobilizer on the 2000 Limited 4Runner? If you swap ecu's the immobilizer codes won't match up and you won't be able to start it. I haven't seen any good solutions to getting around that yet.
The ECU contains the immobilizer function. Non-immobilizer ECU = no immobilizer. It will start right up.

-Charlie
__________________
'99 4Runner SR5 Auto - 4WD swapped
'89 Camry Alltrac LE 3S-GTE 5spd
'17 Chevy Volt Premier
'16 Honda Odyssey Elite
Previous: '88 Camry Alltrac LE 3S-GE BEAMS, 90 Camry 3S-GTE, 90 Camry DX, '03 WRX wagon, '08 Outback XT
phattyduck is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 03-09-2022, 02:29 PM #11
RandyBobandy's Avatar
RandyBobandy RandyBobandy is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Southwest PA
Posts: 623
RandyBobandy is just really nice RandyBobandy is just really nice RandyBobandy is just really nice RandyBobandy is just really nice RandyBobandy is just really nice
RandyBobandy RandyBobandy is offline
Member
RandyBobandy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Southwest PA
Posts: 623
RandyBobandy is just really nice RandyBobandy is just really nice RandyBobandy is just really nice RandyBobandy is just really nice RandyBobandy is just really nice
Quote:
Originally Posted by G_Raw View Post
Suggested solution to the above. Pull the light bulb from the dash cluster for neutral. Then splice all trans auto trans wires in harness to stock ECU to neutral signal. This way the ECU will always think the vehicle is in neutral and will not try to run shift points for you. It will not affect idling. And since you are manually shifting it obviously shifts when you do. This will avoid the ECU issue and check engine light issue. Obviously you remove the neutral bulb from dash cluster cause that would be irritating to stare at all the time.

Then you can either be upfront with someone or sell off the Manual ECU to someone who doesn't know what their doing with their conversion and they'll have to cross the bridge of paying someone to reflash that thing when the realize the issue...
It’s still going to throw codes from the missing shift solenoids if the auto ecu is used. The manual ecu won’t have an immobilizer function so it won’t be an issue, plus these ecus can’t be reflashed at all
RandyBobandy is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 03-09-2022, 02:32 PM #12
Bad Luck Bad Luck is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Hot Springs, AR
Posts: 4,410
Real Name: Patrick
Bad Luck has a reputation beyond repute Bad Luck has a reputation beyond repute Bad Luck has a reputation beyond repute Bad Luck has a reputation beyond repute Bad Luck has a reputation beyond repute Bad Luck has a reputation beyond repute Bad Luck has a reputation beyond repute Bad Luck has a reputation beyond repute Bad Luck has a reputation beyond repute Bad Luck has a reputation beyond repute Bad Luck has a reputation beyond repute
Bad Luck Bad Luck is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Hot Springs, AR
Posts: 4,410
Real Name: Patrick
Bad Luck has a reputation beyond repute Bad Luck has a reputation beyond repute Bad Luck has a reputation beyond repute Bad Luck has a reputation beyond repute Bad Luck has a reputation beyond repute Bad Luck has a reputation beyond repute Bad Luck has a reputation beyond repute Bad Luck has a reputation beyond repute Bad Luck has a reputation beyond repute Bad Luck has a reputation beyond repute Bad Luck has a reputation beyond repute
Quote:
Originally Posted by phattyduck View Post
The ECU contains the immobilizer function. Non-immobilizer ECU = no immobilizer. It will start right up.

-Charlie
You're right. I had to consult my 2000 EWD. For some reason I thought the transponder key amplifier did more than it actually did. I was probably thinking about replacing the ignition cylinder on my Limited.
__________________
2000 SR5 V6 Manual 4WD https://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-g...biography.html
2000 Limited V6 Auto E-Locker Sold 3/2022
Bad Luck is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 03-09-2022, 04:30 PM #13
phattyduck phattyduck is offline
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Pasadena, CA
Posts: 5,409
phattyduck has a reputation beyond repute phattyduck has a reputation beyond repute phattyduck has a reputation beyond repute phattyduck has a reputation beyond repute phattyduck has a reputation beyond repute phattyduck has a reputation beyond repute phattyduck has a reputation beyond repute phattyduck has a reputation beyond repute phattyduck has a reputation beyond repute phattyduck has a reputation beyond repute phattyduck has a reputation beyond repute
phattyduck phattyduck is offline
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Pasadena, CA
Posts: 5,409
phattyduck has a reputation beyond repute phattyduck has a reputation beyond repute phattyduck has a reputation beyond repute phattyduck has a reputation beyond repute phattyduck has a reputation beyond repute phattyduck has a reputation beyond repute phattyduck has a reputation beyond repute phattyduck has a reputation beyond repute phattyduck has a reputation beyond repute phattyduck has a reputation beyond repute phattyduck has a reputation beyond repute
Quote:
Originally Posted by RandyBobandy View Post
plus these ecus can’t be reflashed at all
It is possible to reflash the immobilizer, but it generally requires soldering to do it.

-Charlie
__________________
'99 4Runner SR5 Auto - 4WD swapped
'89 Camry Alltrac LE 3S-GTE 5spd
'17 Chevy Volt Premier
'16 Honda Odyssey Elite
Previous: '88 Camry Alltrac LE 3S-GE BEAMS, 90 Camry 3S-GTE, 90 Camry DX, '03 WRX wagon, '08 Outback XT
phattyduck is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 03-09-2022, 05:45 PM #14
Doc2012's Avatar
Doc2012 Doc2012 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Stationed in Camp LeJeune, home is Conover, NC
Posts: 2,691
Doc2012 has a spectacular aura about Doc2012 has a spectacular aura about
Doc2012 Doc2012 is offline
Senior Member
Doc2012's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Stationed in Camp LeJeune, home is Conover, NC
Posts: 2,691
Doc2012 has a spectacular aura about Doc2012 has a spectacular aura about
Quote:
Originally Posted by eimkeith View Post
subscribed! I just got a 2wd 2000; am planning to do the same!

Dude; doing the same; and you’re fairly close.

Let me know if you need help.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
"We are experts in the application of violence."
-LtCol Christian Cabannis, Camp Letherneck, Afghanistan, 2009. The "Summer of Decision."


Doc2012 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 03-09-2022, 06:02 PM #15
audiness's Avatar
audiness audiness is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Charleston SC
Posts: 1,196
audiness will become famous soon enough
audiness audiness is offline
Senior Member
audiness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Charleston SC
Posts: 1,196
audiness will become famous soon enough
Thanks for the support guys, i know I will run into issues doing this. with the cutting and welding, I consider this a one-way mod - so no going back. I will, one way or another, overcome any issues i encounter. I will post here for anyone else who does this in the future.
audiness is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Reply

Tags
donor , limited , manual , sr5 , truck

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
2000 T4R on Craiglist with manual AND auto transmission BE4Runner 3rd gen T4Rs 17 03-07-2016 10:59 PM
WTB: 1999-2000 4x4 Manual Transmission Alabama Thomas_Magnum_'98 Want to Buy/Trade 1 05-11-2015 05:57 PM
2000 Manual Transmission fourharts56 3rd gen T4Rs 14 09-07-2013 07:26 PM
Manual Hub Conversion Kit 2000 Toyota 4Runner astrodog Classifieds - buy & sell (no commercial ads please) 2 02-25-2010 03:07 AM
F.S. - 2000 4Runner 4X4 SR5 Silver MANUAL TRANSMISSION! JyRO Classifieds - buy & sell (no commercial ads please) 3 11-30-2005 01:56 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:13 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
***This site is an unofficial Toyota site, and is not officially endorsed, supported, authorized by or affiliated with Toyota. All company, product, or service names references in this web site are used for identification purposes only and may be trademarks of their respective owners. The Toyota name, marks, designs and logos, as well as Toyota model names, are registered trademarks of Toyota Motor Corporation***Ad Management plugin by RedTyger
 
Copyright © 2020