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I saw Randy do it at junk yard. He really had the front diff out relatively quickly. Randy is Randy he is unique is in own way.
When I first read this I thought you were talking about the banana hammock.
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I saw Randy do it at junk yard. He really had the front diff out relatively quickly. Randy is Randy he is unique is in own way.
I've certainly heard this occasionally, about how easy they are to pull, but I've done it a few times (both getting donor diffs from junkyards and swapping mine) and... dunno, it's a real PITA.

I think the differing outcomes might come down to how sagged the motor mounts are? If it's a well used truck, the mounts are sagged, and the engine is sitting 1/2 inch lower than normal, and that removes some of the clearance needed to scoot the diff out. And turns it from a quick and easy thing into a struggle to find 1/64 of a inch clearance.

If only Toyota used a bolt instead of a nut on that rear mount...
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I don't think it takes much to get them to engage. I've seen the videos comparing ARB air lockers to Eaton's E-locker and they are clearly trying to steer people to air lockers. In those videos, they failed to talk about some of the issues people have with the ARBs and it's not just air line failures or leaks. I can't remember the issues though. I think it was issues with the seals that was a common gripe about them.

A person I respect highly in the Toyota industry that runs a shop was the person who steered me towards the Eaton. He said hands down the Eaton was a better way to go over the ARB.
That's the impression I got watching those videos. That they were trying to amplify some small difference into a massive deal breaker.

Then I watched another video that seemed to show an Eaton equipped vehicle where they just repeatedly failed to lock out on a trail.
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@mtbtim , I think your going to be pleased with this mod, look forward to the in use Video.
2 yrs this month with mine ECGS did the build stand up company, I installed it.
I have no complaints with it so far it's worked when I hit the switch.
As for the locking/unlocking of it it's there and you have to think about it as part of the line your running.
It's acts just like the rear OEM locker but better, suits my style of wheeling.
If your style requires instant on/off ARB is the better choice.

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@mtbtim , I think your going to be pleased with this mod, look forward to the in use Video.
2 yrs this month with mine ECGS did the build stand up company, I installed it.
I have no complaints with it so far it's worked when I hit the switch.
As for the locking/unlocking of it it's there and you have to think about it as part of the line your running.
It's acts just like the rear OEM locker but better, suits my style of wheeling.
If your style requires instant on/off ARB is the better choice.
Yeah, same here. I lock the rear e-locker ahead of time based off what I see in front of me and I'll do the same with the front Eaton e-locker. It seems the ARB crowd found the one thing they could criticize the Eaton's on and made sure they put that message out to put doubts in the minds of potential buyers of Eaton.
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Thanks for another helpful vid Tim.

I never took apart my front diff. Mines is working just perfectly at this time. I've already watched this vid to familiarize myself of the goings on in there. And Im sure I'll watch it again when the time comes to service my front diff later down the road.

In these days when the only way the other party will lift a finger to do anything for you, is if you pay them first. That vid he shot with Mr Berry is a treat, and a very expensive one if you had to pay for his CEO level of labor.

The vids you shoot are a real help for members who have doubts in tackling that certain repair, and can't get answers on how to go about it.

Keep em coming when you have the time!
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Thanks for another helpful vid Tim.

I never took apart my front diff. Mines is working just perfectly at this time. I've already watched this vid to familiarize myself of the goings on in there. And Im sure I'll watch it again when the time comes to service my front diff later down the road.

In these days when the only way the other party will lift a finger to do anything for you, is if you pay them first. That vid he shot with Mr Berry is a treat, and a very expensive one if you had to pay for his CEO level of labor.

The vids you shoot are a real help for members who have doubts in tackling that certain repair, and can't get answers on how to go about it.

Keep em coming when you have the time!
I was a little shocked when Chase decided he'd be the guy to shoot the videos with us. I suspect a couple reasons for this. For one, he probably wanted to have control of the delivery of the information. Two, I bet he wanted to keep his guys pumping out Toyota differentials to waiting customers so he took time out of his own schedule to meet production quotas.

It was real honor to work with Chase Perry and I'm proud of the videos we made together. I know they're going to help out a lot of people. They're also going to steer a lot of business towards ECGS, because when people see how much is involved to properly set up gears or install a locker, I figure a large percentage will just say screw that, I'm going to let ECGS do it because I know it will get done right and backed by a warranty.

Glad you like the video. We'll keep on churning out the content to help people. It's one of the most rewarding things I've done with my life. I actually get more satisfaction out of being a YouTuber than I do from my firefighting job. It's weird but true. I'm making a bigger difference as a YouTuber because of the reach I've got through the internet. I've exchanged messages with people all over the world. The 242 videos we've produced have a combined total of almost 11 million views. I'm proud of our contribution to the DIY Mechanic Community.
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I was a little shocked when Chase decided he'd be the guy to shoot the videos with us. I suspect a couple reasons for this. For one, he probably wanted to have control of the delivery of the information. Two, I bet he wanted to keep his guys pumping out Toyota differentials to waiting customers so he took time out of his own schedule to meet production quotas.

It was real honor to work with Chase Perry and I'm proud of the videos we made together. I know they're going to help out a lot of people. They're also going to steer a lot of business towards ECGS, because when people see how much is involved to properly set up gears or install a locker, I figure a large percentage will just say screw that, I'm going to let ECGS do it because I know it will get done right and backed by a warranty.

Glad you like the video. We'll keep on churning out the content to help people. It's one of the most rewarding things I've done with my life. I actually get more satisfaction out of being a YouTuber than I do from my firefighting job. It's weird but true. I'm making a bigger difference as a YouTuber because of the reach I've got through the internet. I've exchanged messages with people all over the world. The 242 videos we've produced have a combined total of almost 11 million views. I'm proud of our contribution to the DIY Mechanic Community.
After watching the install videos I'm impressed by the fact that the CEO is himself a highly qualified diff mechanic. That's probably why he is able to build a great business with an excellent team working for him.
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It seems the ARB crowd found the one thing they could criticize the Eaton's on and made sure they put that message out to put doubts in the minds of potential buyers of Eaton.
Mine is a Harrop came from Aus in 19 after several months of sayers and na-sayers research
Aus was Harrop US was ARB. Hearing pro's n con's is always a good thing.
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After watching the install videos I'm impressed by the fact that the CEO is himself a highly qualified diff mechanic. That's probably why he is able to build a great business with an excellent team working for him.
At the 500 mi mark I drained diff as required, thru paper funnel paint filters took pictures of filter and magnetic drain plug
emailed to ECGS asked if all looked well. Response returned in less than an hour.
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Aus was Harrop US was ARB. Hearing pro's n con's is always a good thing.
Yes, hearing pros and cons is a good thing if you're actually hearing the pros and cons of each design. The videos I came across seemed heavily slanted towards ARB. ARB has their issues as well.

Harrop and Eaton teamed up to make the e-lockers Eaton sells. The Eaton was suggested to me by someone who's opinion I value, owns a Toyota shop and does a lot of 4wheeling, so I decided to go that route.
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After watching the install videos I'm impressed by the fact that the CEO is himself a highly qualified diff mechanic. That's probably why he is able to build a great business with an excellent team working for him.
You should watch the Interview we did with Chase. It's a cool story how he got started and built his business to what it is today.

But, here's the cliff notes if you don't feel like watching it.

*Chase got a finance degree and worked for a nursing home company but he enjoyed flipping Toyotas for the hobby and extra money.
*He quit the finance gig and was solely flipping Toyotas for income.
*Saw a local mechanic shop ran by a father and son that needed help and worked there as a mechanic for 2 years becoming an ASE Certified Master Technician.
*Opened his own mechanic shop and worked on all makes and model vehicles.
*Realized specializing in something was the way to go and saw nobody really specialized in building differentials.
*Started East Coast Gear Supply out of a one-bay shop in a crappy neighborhood.
*Expanded into neighboring shop space in the same complex as he grew and started hiring more people.
*His current location in Louisburg is his 4th major move to a different facility.
*His current facility is 100,000 square feet and he employs anywhere from 45-50 people.
*Toyota is around 30% of his business. They ship out around 13 Toyota diffs everyday.

Chase is a Toyota guy through and through so even more reason to like the guy.
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Timmy, Is EAT14218-1 what you installed?
Harrop is 2 pushrod version, Eaton version has 3 pushrods so rumor of a design change is true,
according to Eaton Tech support I spoke to minute ago. That a plus for strength overall.
Asked him if amount of tire rotation for lock/unlock was changed, it has not.
It easy to live with lock time more strength for same price I payed that a win.
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Harrop is 2 pushrod version, Eaton version has 3 pushrods so rumor of a design change is true,
according to Eaton Tech support I spoke to minute ago. That a plus for strength overall.
Asked him if amount of tire rotation for lock/unlock was changed, it has not.
It easy to live with lock time more strength for same price I payed that a win.
Yeah, mine has 3 pushrods. The amount of rotation required for it to lock is fairly minimal. I can live with it.
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Well Tim I can't say how much your videos have helped me over the years. This is another great one. I just got back from a 3 week 4wd trip through BC. I didn't bring a spare CV and I wished I had for peace of mind. Here was a tough creek crossing where I wished I had a front locker. The wheel was spinning but not enough to break the CV apparently. So no harm done.

I have a million things to spend my money on between 4runners and my 60 series but I'll keep this in mind. I'd get ECGS to just ship me the complete installed differential.

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