[Bad Luck]

Originally Posted by poisedforflight

From the article it does not sound like they'd work on my '98.

“BLACK” – Toyota 90119-10933; Bolt with Washer. This bolt is specified for the 2001-2002 4Runner, at locations with the protector boot. It is longer than the other bolts, to accommodate the extra thickness of the protector boot. The “11” head markings also classify it as a Class 11T bolt. The captive washer makes this bolt quite different from the flanged heads of all the other bolts.

Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Lower Ball Joint (LBJ) Bolts - and More!

I just used these on mine the other day. They will work without the protector boot without causing any issues. 37 ft/lb torque spec.

[Spiker Engineering]

Originally Posted by poisedforflight

From the article it does not sound like they'd work on my '98.

“BLACK” – Toyota 90119-10933; Bolt with Washer. This bolt is specified for the 2001-2002 4Runner, at locations with the protector boot. It is longer than the other bolts, to accommodate the extra thickness of the protector boot. The “11” head markings also classify it as a Class 11T bolt. The captive washer makes this bolt quite different from the flanged heads of all the other bolts.

Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Lower Ball Joint (LBJ) Bolts - and More!

They'll work great! The only thing to watch for when using the longer bolt with washer without the boot protector is that the protruding threads will come very close to the CV boot clamp. Depending on how tightly the clamp was pinched, you may need to mash down a bit on the clamp's pinch (see below).

[poisedforflight]

Thanks y'all. Great info!

[brillo_76]

I haven't seen those lbj covers are they only 01 and 02 3rd gens? As I see 03 tocumas have them as well...



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[Spiker Engineering]

Originally Posted by brillo_76

I haven't seen those lbj covers are they only 01 and 02 3rd gens? As I see 03 tocumas have them as well...

They originally came on '01-02 models, but you can use them on all 3rd Gens!

[brillo_76]

Originally Posted by Spiker Engineering

They originally came on '01-02 models, but you can use them on all 3rd Gens!

Explains why i haven't seen them. I mostly mess 1997 to 1998s I do have one 01 so i have to see if its still on them along with my 02 frame. Thanks Spiker..:-)

[brillo_76]

Sorry speedy. I don't want to plug up your build thread. I was curious on those lbj covers ...

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[Speedy]

No worries, discussion is always a good thing IMO. I wasn't sure what all years those updated LBJ bolts would work on so glad to know it's a fit for all years.

My 2002 did have the dust covers.

[brillo_76]

Originally Posted by Speedy

No worries, discussion is always a good thing IMO. I wasn't sure what all years those updated LBJ bolts would work on so glad to know it's a fit for all years.



My 2002 did have the dust covers.

I didn't look at my 01 sport or my 02 frame. Most likely they do.


I expect Toyota added those shields to help keep dirt and water mud out of that ball joint to extend life as a guess.

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[Speedy]

Alignment is done. 3rd post updated with results but if you mess with the LBJs AT ALL I recommend one, you should see how far out mine was and I know it was the LBJs. Now on to some new tires. Gotta decide on 265 vs 285.

[JoeT4R]

Originally Posted by Speedy

Alignment is done. 3rd post updated with results but if you mess with the LBJs AT ALL I recommend one, you should see how far out mine was and I know it was the LBJs. Now on to some new tires. Gotta decide on 265 vs 285.

Good information Speedy. I plan to go to 255 next, as I currently have 285's. I like the way they look and I'm ready for something different. I've had the 285's for the last 8 years. What brand are you looking for? Do you know exactly which tire you want? Would love to hear your thoughts.

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[Speedy]

Originally Posted by JoeT4R

Good information Speedy. I plan to go to 255 next, as I currently have 285's. I like the way they look and I'm ready for something different. I've had the 285's for the last 8 years. What brand are you looking for? Do you know exactly which tire you want? Would love to hear your thoughts.

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I had narrowed it down to Cooper Discoverer AT4S or Toyo Open Country ATIII. The guy at DT told me Cooper got bought out by Goodyear last year and that quality had started to decline and recommended the Toyos as a result. That's what I'm going with.

[JoeT4R]

Originally Posted by Speedy

I had narrowed it down to Cooper Discoverer AT4S or Toyo Open Country ATIII. The guy at DT told me Cooper got bought out by Goodyear last year and that quality had started to decline and recommended the Toyos as a result. That's what I'm going with.

Oh interesting! I didn't know Cooper was bought out. That's crazy to hear. I haven't heard anything negative about Toyo so I'm sure you can't go wrong with them.

They do look pretty good, by the way. I'm hopeful that the quality of Cooper tires doesn't decline drastically because I've had great experiences with them over the past 8 years.

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[Speedy]

Yeah my buddy loves his Coopers and said one of the best tires he's had, but he got them a few years ago.

Toyos get great reviews, only down side kinda pricey. Tires last me a while so not a huge deal in the end I reckon.

[Speedy]

Made a decision on tires. I'll let you guess what size. I was torn between 285/75R16 and 265/75R16.

Third post updated with the deets. White letters out this time and I dig it.